2015 Derby Point Standings and Schedule

[Man o Taz]

Derby Prep Schedule

COMPLETE SCHEDULE

RACE DATE   TITLE   GRADE   RACE DISTANCE   TRACK   RACE REPLAY   POINTS
September 6, 2014   Iroquois      1 1/16 Miles   Churchill Downs   10-4-2-1 Winner: Lucky Player, BSF 82
September 27, 2014   FrontRunner      1 1/16 Miles   Santa Anita Park   10-4-2-1 Winner: American Pharoah:101
October 4, 2014   Champagne      1 Mile   Belmont Park   10-4-2-1 Winner: Daredevil: 107
October 4, 2014   Breeders' Futurity      1 1/16 Miles   Keeneland   N/A   10-4-2-1 Winner: Carpe Diem: 93
October 5, 2014   Grey      1 1/16 Miles (S)   Woodbine   N/A   10-4-2-1 Winner: International Star: 66
November 1, 2014   Breeders' Cup Juvenile      1 1/16 Miles   Santa Anita Park   10-4-2-1 Winner: Texas Red: 104
November 22, 2014   Delta Downs Jackpot      1 1/16 Miles   Delta Downs   10-4-2-1 Winner: Ocho Ocho Ocho: 90
November 29, 2014   Remsen      1 1/8 Miles   Aqueduct   10-4-2-1 Winner: Leave The Light On: 90
November 29, 2014   Kentucky Jockey Club      1 1/16 Miles   Churchill Downs   10-4-2-1 Winner: El Kabeir: 94
December 20, 2014   Los Alamitos Futurity      1 1/16 Miles   Los Alamitos   N/A   10-4-2-1 Winner: Dortmund: 91

January 3, 2015   Jerome      1 Mile 70 Yards   Aqueduct   N/A   10-4-2-1 Winner: El Kabeir: 95
January 10, 2015   Sham      1 Mile   Santa Anita Park   10-4-2-1 Winner: Calculator: 97?
January 17, 2015   Lecomte      1 Mile 70 Yards   Fair Grounds      10-4-2-1 Winner:  International Star: 89
January 19, 2015   Smarty Jones      1 Mile   Oaklawn Park      10-4-2-1 Winner: Far Right: 89
January 24, 2015   Holy Bull      1 1/16 Miles   Gulfstream Park      10-4-2-1 Winner: Upstart: 105
February 7, 2015   Withers      1 1/16 Miles   Aqueduct      10-4-2-1 Winner: Far From Over: 96
February 7, 2015   Robert B. Lewis      1 1/16 Miles   Santa Anita Park      10-4-2-1 Winner: Dortmund: 103
February 14, 2015   El Camino Real Derby      1 1/8 Miles (S)   Golden Gate      10-4-2-1 Winner: Metaboss: 85

February 21, 2015   Fountain of Youth      1 1/16 Miles   Gulfstream Park      50-20-10-5 Winner: Itsaknockout:90/Upstart: 95
February 21, 2015   Risen Star      1 1/16 Miles   Fair Grounds      50-20-10-5 Winner: International Star: 93
February 22, 2015   Southwest      1 1/16 Miles   Oaklawn Park      10-4-2-1 Winner: Far Right: 91
March 7, 2015   Gotham      1 1/16 Miles   Aqueduct      50-20-10-5 Winner: El Kabeir :89
March 7, 2015   San Felipe      1 1/16 Miles   Santa Anita Park      50-20-10-5 Winner: Dortmund: 104
March 7, 2015   Tampa Bay Derby      1 1/16 Miles   Tampa Bay      50-20-10-5 Winner: Carpe Diem: 98
March 14, 2015   Rebel      1 1/16 Miles   Oaklawn Park      50-20-10-5 Winner: American Pharoah: 101
March 21, 2015   Spiral      1 1/8 Miles (S)   Turfway Park      50-20-10-5 Winner: Dubai Sky : 92
March 22, 2015   Sunland Derby      1 1/8 Miles   Sunland Park      50-20-10-5 Winner: Firing Line : 97

March 28, 2015   UAE Derby      1 3/16 Miles (S)   Meydan      100-40-20-10 Winner: Mubtaahij
March 28, 2015   Florida Derby      1 1/8 Miles   Gulfstream Park      100-40-20-10 Winner: Materiality : 110
March 28, 2015   Louisiana Derby      1 1/8 Miles   Fair Grounds      100-40-20-10 Winner: International Star : 98
April 4, 2015   Wood Memorial      1 1/8 Miles   Aqueduct      100-40-20-10 Winner: Frosted : 103
April 4, 2015   Santa Anita Derby      1 1/8 Miles   Santa Anita Park      100-40-20-10 Winner: Dortmund : 106
April 4, 2015   Blue Grass      1 1/8 Miles   Keeneland      100-40-20-10 Winner: Carpe Diem : 95
April 11, 2015   Arkansas Derby      1 1/8 Miles   Oaklawn Park      100-40-20-10 Winner: American Pharoah : 105
April 18, 2015   Lexington      1 1/16 Miles   Keeneland      10-4-2-1 Winner: Divining Rod

[Man o Taz]

DRF has an analysis of every race below if you click on the .PDF:
http://www.drf.com/events/road-kentucky-derby-churchill-downs#points

2015 Kentucky Derby Points Standings

Rank   Horse   Trainer   Points   Non-Restricted Stakes Earnings
1   El Kabeir   John Terranova   21   $330,792
2   Carpe Diem   Todd Pletcher   14   $660,000
3   Calculator   Peter Miller   14   $180,000
4   Texas Red   Keith Desormeaux   12   $1,136,000
5   International Star   Mike Maker   11   $130,979
6   Ocho Ocho Ocho   Jim Cassidy   10   $660,000
7   Mr. Z   D. Wayne Lukas   10   $473,326
8   American Pharoah   Bob Baffert   10   $360,000
9   Daredevil   Todd Pletcher   10   $300,000
10   Dortmund   Bob Baffert   10   $300,000
11   Leave the Light On   Chad Brown   10   $240,000
12   Lucky Player   Steve Asmussen   10   $96,481
13   Upstart   Rick Violette   6   $300,000
14   Bold Conquest   Steve Asmussen   6   $72,176
15   Conquest Typhoon   Mark Casse   4   $311,827
16   Imperia   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $163,804
17   Firing Line   Simon Callaghan   4   $100,000
18   Frosted   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $80,000
19   Nasa   John Servis   4   $40,000
20   Rock Shandy   Peter Miller   4   $38,000
21   Far Right   Ron Moquett   2   $115,906
22   The Truth or Else   Kenny McPeek   2   $76,000
23   Hashtag Bourbon   Kellyn Gorder   2   $74,117
24   Keen Ice   Dale Romans   2   $55,000
25   Hollywood Critic   Barbara Minshall   2   $35,528
26   Eagle   Neil Howard   2   $21,902
27   General Bellamy   William Mott   2   $20,000
28   Pioneerof the West   Mark Casse   2   $14,250
29   The Great War   Wesley Ward   1   $170,702
30   Lord Nelson   Bob Baffert   1   $84,571
31   Danny Boy   Dale Romans   1   $55,544
32   Saratoga Heater   Al Stall, Jr.   1   $50,000
33   Bench Warrant   John Sadler   1   $30,000
34   St. Joy Bay   Peter Miller   1   $27,000
35   Tough Customer   Wayne Catalano   1   $25,000
36   Classy Class   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $20,000
37   Ackeret   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $13,000
38   Flashaway   John C. Oxley   1   $8,999

[Man o Taz]

Rank   Horse   Trainer   Points   Non-Restricted Stakes Earnings
1   El Kabeir   John Terranova   21   $330,792
2   International Star   Mike Maker   21   $250,979
3   Upstart   Rick Violette, Jr.   16   $538,080
4   Carpe Diem   Todd Pletcher   14   $660,000
5   Calculator   Peter Miller   14   $180,000
6   Texas Red   Keith Desormeaux   12   $1,136,000
7   Mr. Z   D. Wayne Lukas   12   $488,325
8   Far Right   Ron Moquette   12   $205,906
9   Ocho Ocho Ocho   Jim Cassidy   10   $660,000
10   American Pharoah   Bob Baffert   10   $360,000
11   Daredevil   Todd Pletcher   10   $300,000
11   Dortmund   Bob Baffert   10   $300,000
13   Leave the Light On   Chad Brown   10   $240,000
14   Lucky Player   Steve Asmussen   10   $97,231
15   Frosted   Kiaran McLaughlin   8   $156,800
16   Bold Conquest   Steve Asmussen   6   $72,176
17   Conquest Typhoon   Mark Casse   4   $311,827
18   Bayerd   Steve Asmussen   4   $245,000
19   Imperia   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $163,804
20   Firing Line   Simon Callaghan   4   $100,000
21   Nasa   John Servis   4   $40,000
21   War Story   Tom Amoss   4   $40,000
23   Rock Shandy   Peter Miller   4   $38,000
24   Bluegrass Singer   Marcus Vitali   2   $104,775
25   The Truth or Else   Kenny McPeek   2   $76,000
26   Hashtag Bourbon   Kellyn Gorder   2   $74,117
27   Keen Ice   Dale Romans   2   $66,250
28   Hollywood Critic   Barbara Minshall   2   $35,528
29   Eagle   Neil Howard   2   $23,902
30   General Bellamy   William Mott   2   $20,000
30   Tiznow R J   Steve Asmussen   2   $20,000
32   Pioneerof the West   Mark Casse   2   $14,250
33   The Great War   Wesley Ward   1   $170,702
34   Private Prospect   Michael Campbell   1   $137,000
35   Lord Nelson   Bob Baffert   1   $84,571
36   Danny Boy   Dale Romans   1   $55,544
37   Juan and Bina   Gustavo Delgado   1   $36,330
38   Saratoga Heater   Al Stall, Jr.   1   $50,000
39   Bench Warrant   John Sadler   1   $30,000
40   St. Joe Bay   Peter Miller   1   $27,000
41   Tough Customer   Wayne Catalano   1   $25,000
42   Classy Class   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $20,000
43   Ackeret   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $13,000
44   Flashaway   John C. Oxley   1   $8,999
45   Another Lemon Drop   Phil Bauer   1   $8,000

[Man o Taz]

Rank   Horse   Trainer   Points   Non-Restricted Stakes Earnings
1   Carpe Diem   Todd Pletcher   14   $660,000
2   Texas Red   Keith Desormeaux   12   $1,136,000
3   El Kabeir   John Terranova   11   $210,792
4   International Star   Mike Maker   11   $130,979
5   Ocho Ocho Ocho   Jim Cassidy   10   $660,000
6   Mr. Z   D. Wayne Lukas   10   $473,326
7   American Pharoah   Bob Baffert   10   $360,000
8   Daredevil   Todd Pletcher   10   $300,000
8   Dortmund   Bob Baffert   10   $3000,000
10   Leave the Light On   Chad Brown   10   $240,000
11   Lucky Player   Steve Asmussen   10   $96,481
12   Upstart   Rick Violette   6   $300,000
13   Bold Conquest   Steve Asmussen   6   $72,176
14   Conquest Typhoon   Mark Casse   4   $311,827
15   Imperia   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $163,804
16   Calculator   Peter Miller   4   $120,000
17   Firing Line   Simon Callaghan   4   $100,000
18   Frosted   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $80,000
19   Far Right   Ron Moquett   2   $115,906
20   The Truth or Else   Kenny McPeek   2   $76,000
21   Hashtag Bourbon   Kellyn Gorder   2   $74,117
22   Keen Ice   Dale Romans   2   $55,000
23   Hollywood Critic   Barbara Minshall   2   $35,528
24   Eagle   Neil Howard   2   $21,902
25   The Great War   Wesley Ward   1   $170,702
26   Lord Nelson   Bob Baffert   1   $84,571
27   Danny Boy   Dale Romans   1   $55,544
28   Saratoga Heater   Al Stall, Jr.   1   $50,000
29   Bench Warrant   John Sadler   1   $30,000
30   Tough Customer   Wayne Catalano   1   $25,000
31   Classy Class   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $20,000
32   Flashaway   John C. Oxley   1   $8,999

[Senator L]

As for points, Baffert didn't sound too pleased on a recent radio interview with Steve
Byke - he said something to the effect he wouldn't have to worry about Dortmund getting
in if it was the old way, but now he has to worry about the points.
SA Derby might be next race or San Felipe- didn't sound totally sure

[Man o Taz]

I think he is opting just to point to the Santa Anita Derby. We'll see.

I understand what he is saying, but I prefer the point system since it gives more value to the 3 year old races.

I also realize that the durability of three year olds is an ongoing issue, but I think three preps for the Derby should not be too tough.

I know horses from Real Quiet forward have been winning the Derby with minimal preps as three year olds, but the less preps you have in my mind the more unlikely it is that you can win the Triple Crown. Heck, winning the Kentucky Derby alone seems to be the end all be all so why prepare a horse for the rigors of the Triple Crown.

This is why I hope American Pharoah can show himself to be a special horse, though he will be tested with just two preps as well.

[Senator L]

I'm thinking that Dortmund is pretty special - 4 for 4 now and he
should get better with the distance. There are so many good horses this
year that you should get juicy odds on whoever you like.
As for the points v.s. money it doesn't matter to me I don't own a horse.
I guess I just get use to the status quo
The Derby being run to early has been an issue since Man O War

[peeptoad]

I agree on Dortmund looking pretty special at this point... and he was a horse that I initially didn't like. His last race changed my opinion a bit. He is a game, game horse and has an imposing stature. Crazy to think he is still growing since he is so big already.
American Pharoah is dropping down in my mind, mainly due to the injury layoff. He hasn't run since September last year, has still only had 3 starts and will asked to go into the Derby off only 2 preps. Especially if he gets bet down (in whatever his next start is) I will be looking elsewhere.

[Man o Taz]

Good points on Dortmund. I was not sold either. He was supposed to blow out the field in the Los Alamitos Futurity and when that didn't happen I had reservations about him, but he is a fighter and that type of grit is very important in the scrum of the Kentucky Derby. I just expect him to win by open lengths and perhaps Firing Line is just that good, or maybe Dortmund is that lazy. Calvin Borel said in the Preakness he made a big mistake pushing Street Sense to the lead too early that once he got there he got lazy. If you look at his next two wins at Saratoga he was in a duel to the wire. It seems that he needed a horse to eyeball or he would get distracted. Perhaps Dortmund is the same way - if he gets the lead to quick then is ready to squander it. That can be costly in the Derby going 10 furlongs unless you have a ton of heart.

He's part of the 4 or more reasons I think this is Bob Baffert's derby year though there seem to be a lot of nice horses. We'll see if Punctuate can be this year's Hoppertunity.

If Frosted can improve he looks like he could be special with his last work looking so good.

And then there is Carpe Diem who we have yet to see this year.

[Raven]

The NYB is my pick for this years Derby!

[Man o Taz]

2015 Kentucky Derby Points Standings

Rank   Horse   Trainer   Points   Non-Restricted Stakes Earnings
1   International Star   Mike Maker   71   $490,979
2   Itsaknockout   Todd Pletcher   50   $240,560
3   Upstart   Rick Violette, Jr.   36   $615,680
4   El Kabeir   John Terranova   25   $380,792
5   War Story   Tom Amoss   24   $120,000
6   Far Right   Ron Moquette   22   $385,906
7   Dortmund   Bob Baffert   20   $390,000
8   Carpe Diem   Todd Pletcher   14   $660,000
9   Mr. Z   D. Wayne Lukas   14   $518,326
10   Frosted   Kiaran McLaughlin   13   $176,200
11   Texas Red   Keith Desormeaux   12   $1,176,000
12   Keen Ice   Dale Romans   12   $106,520
13   Ocho Ocho Ocho   Jim Cassidy   10   $660,000
14   American Pharoah   Bob Baffert   10   $360,000
15   Daredevil   Todd Pletcher   10   $300,000
16   Far From Over   Todd Pletcher   10   $150,000
17   Metaboss   Jeff Bonde   10   $126,000
18   Lucky Player   Steve Asmussen   10   $97,231
19   Frammento   Nick Zito   10   $42,000
20   Firing Line   Simon Callaghan   8   $130,000
21   Bold Conquest   Steve Asmussen   7   $87,176
22   Conquest Typhoon   Mark Casse   6   $335,827
23   The Truth or Else   Kenny McPeek   6   $136,000
24   Rock Shandy   Peter Miller   6   $56,000
25   St. Joe Bay   Peter Miller   6   $43,000
26   Bayerd   Steve Asmussen   4   $246,000
27   Imperia   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $171,804
28   Cross the Line   Jerry Hollendorfer   4   $100,000
29   Nasa   John Servis   4   $40,000
30   Classy Class   Kiaran McLaughlin   3   $45,000
31   Bluegrass Singer   Marcus Vitali   2   $108,775
32   Hashtag Bourbon   Kellyn Gorder   2   $74,117
33   Hollywood Critic   Barbara Minshall   2   $35,528
34   General Bellamy   Bill Mott   2   $25,000
35   Tiznow R J   Steve Asmussen   2   $24,000
+   Pioneerof the West   Mark Casse   2   $14,250
36   The Great War   Wesley Ward   1   $214,412
37   Lord Nelson   Bob Baffert   1   $204,571
38   Private Prospect   Michael Campbell   1   $138,000
39   Danny Boy   Dale Romans   1   $59,544
+   Saratoga Heater   Al Stall, Jr.   1   $50,000
40   Bench Warrant   John Sadler   1   $42,000
41   Juan and Bina   Gustavo Delgado   1   $40,330
42   Tough Customer   Wayne Catalano   1   $25,000
+   Ackeret   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $13,000
43   Tencendur   George Weaver   1   $12,500
44   Harmonic   Jerry Hollendorfer   1   $12,000
45   Hero Ten All   Jeff Mullins   1   $9,250
46   Flashaway   John C. Oxley   1   $8,999
47   Another Lemon Drop   Phil Bauer   1   $8,000
+ - Not Triple Crown nominated

[Man o Taz]

2015 Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Rank   Horse   Trainer   Points   Non-Restricted Stakes Earnings
1    El Kabeir   John Terranova   75   $620,792
2   International Star   Mike Maker   71   $490,979
3   Dortmund   Bob Baffert   70   $630,000
4   Carpe Diem   Todd Pletcher   64   $870,000
5   Itsaknockout   Todd Pletcher   50   $240,560
6   Upstart   Rick Violette, Jr.   36   $615,680
7   War Story   Tom Amoss   24   $120,000
8   Far Right   Ron Moquette   22   $385,906
9   Ami's Flatter   Josie Carroll   20   $99,200
10   Prospect Park   Cliff Sise Jr.    20   $80,000
   +Tiz Shea D   Bill Mott   20   $80,000
11   Mr. Z   D. Wayne Lukas   14   $518,326
12   Frosted   Kiaran McLaughlin   13   $176,200
13   Classy Class   Kiaran McLaughlin   13   $85,000
14   Texas Red   Keith Desormeaux   12   $1,176,000
15   Keen Ice   Dale Romans   12   $106,520
16   Ocho Ocho Ocho   Jim Cassidy   10   $660,250
17   American Pharoah   Bob Baffert   10   $360,000
18   Daredevil   Todd Pletcher   10   $339,600
19   Far From Over   Todd Pletcher   10   $150,000
20   Metaboss   Jeff Bonde   10   $126,000
21   Lucky Player   Steve Asmussen   10   $97,231
22   Bolo   Carla Gaines   10   $94,980
   +Divining Rod   Arnaud Delacour   10   $75,000
23   Frammento   Nick Zito   10   $42,000
24   Firing Line   Simon Callaghan   8   $130,000
25   Bold Conquest   Steve Asmussen   7   $87,176
26   Conquest Typhoon   Mark Casse   6   $335,827
27   Lord Nelson   Bob Baffert   6   $228,571
28   The Truth or Else   Kenny McPeek   6   $136,000
29   Rock Shandy   Peter Miller   6   $56,000
30   St. Joe Bay   Peter Miller   6   $43,000
31   Toasting Master   Dale Romans   5   $21,000
32   Danzig Moon   Mark Casse   5   $17,500
33   Bayerd   Steve Asmussen   4   $246,000
34   Imperia   Kiaran McLaughlin   4   $171,804
35   Cross the Line   Jerry Hollendorfer   4   $100,000
36   Nasa   John Servis   4   $40,000
37   Bluegrass Singer   Marcus Vitali   2   $118,945
38   Hashtag Bourbon   Kellyn Gorder   2   $74,117
39   Hollywood Critic   Barbara Minshall   2   $35,528
40   General Bellamy   Bill Mott   2   $25,000
41   Tiznow R J   Steve Asmussen   2   $24,000
+   Pioneerof the West   Mark Casse   2   $14,250
42   Private Prospect   Michael Campbell   1   $138,000
43   Danny Boy   Dale Romans   1   $59,544
+   Saratoga Heater   Al Stall, Jr.   1   $50,000
44   Bench Warrant   John Sadler   1   $42,000
45   Juan and Bina   Gustavo Delgado   1   $40,330
46   Tough Customer   Wayne Catalano   1   $25,000
47   Tencendur   George Weaver   1   $24,500
48   Another Lemon Drop   Phil Bauer   1   $20,000
+   Ackeret   Kiaran McLaughlin   1   $13,000
49   Harmonic   Jerry Hollendorfer   1   $12,000
50   Hero Ten All   Jeff Mullins   1   $9,250
51   Flashaway   John C. Oxley   1   $8,999
+ - Not Triple Crown nominated

[afleetphil]

I'm worried about Texas Red getting enough points to make the field.

[Man o Taz]

I am actually more worried about his fitness for the race if he should get the points.

His connections suggesting that they would race him off his San Vicente win without any other races was strange.

He has a ton of talent. I would hate to see the horse compromised to just try and get in the gate for the Kentucky Derby.

Hold him out for the Preakness.

[Senator L]

I hope they give Lord Nelson a shot in the SA derby. Didn't run that bad,
but distance a question