Man o' Taz's 2016 Derby Dozen

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Raven

That was a nice win by Smokey Image!
call no man happy till he dies. ~SOLON~

Man o Taz

#16
Quote from: Dusty on January 31, 2016, 08:13:25 PM
And a nice win by Smokey Image - undefeated - I am adding him

My only issue with him was who he beat in the California Cup, but I hope he is another California Chrome coming out of the race very strong. He is a beautiful colt.

Quote from: Dusty on January 30, 2016, 07:40:59 PM
Mohayman is beautiful and was impressive

Right.l He has the top BSF last year and this year in a Derby points race with a 95.

"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

#17
1. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth? 
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

2. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 20
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

3.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 18
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes or G1 Wood Memorial
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

4. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, February 15
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

5. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
Trainer: Dale Romans
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

6. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixleland Band 14
Next Race: Robert Lewis Stakes on February 6th, 8.5 furlongs.
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs.
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

7. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: ?
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

8. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: San Vicente Stakes, February 15, G1 Florida Derby, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

9. Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs
Springboard Mile

10. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

11. Collected (Ciry Zip by Carson City and Helena by Johannesberg) 10
Next Race: G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs.
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G3 Sham Stakes, 8 furlongs

12. Drefong (Gio Ponti by Tale of the Cat and Eltimaas by Ghostzapper)
Next Race: G2 San Vincente, 7 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert

Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth/G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin

On The Bubble:
Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: ?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
Next Race:?
Trainer: Bruce Levine

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Zulu
(Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz


1. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 20
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

2.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 18
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes or G1 Wood Memorial
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

3. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, February 15
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

4. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
Trainer: Dale Romans
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

5. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band 24
Next Race: Robert Lewis Stakes on February 6th, 8.5 furlongs.
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 92
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 88
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

6. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: ?
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

7. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

8. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: San Vicente Stakes, February 15, G1 Florida Derby, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

9. Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs
Springboard Mile

10. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

11. Collected (Ciry Zip by Carson City and Helena by Johannesberg) 10
Next Race: G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs.
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G3 Sham Stakes, 8 furlongs

12. Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth/G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin

On The Bubble:
Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: ?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

Drefong (Gio Ponti by Tale of the Cat and Eltimaas by Ghostzapper)
Next Race: G2 San Vincente, 7 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
Next Race:?
Trainer: Bruce Levine

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Zulu (Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

Oh - Thank you - well done - I may disagree with the placings but your layout is SUPERB!
May they run with the wind

peeptoad

Right now, early on, Mohaymen sure looks the part. My only question is whether he continues to look the part when the distances increase.

Brody's Cause is targeting the Tampa Bay Derby as his comeback, so we'll see where he stands.
As an early long shot I'm liking Synchrony. I also like Awesome Speed a bit... I think he takes on Mohaymen next.


Man o Taz

#21
Thanks Dusty.

I think you are right peeptoad.

I have always been skeptical of the Tapit's getting 10-12 furlongs.

I know they have done it, but it is the bottom that has really helped them.

Frosted just did through Fast Cookie by Deputy Minister
Tonalist - through Pleasant Colony

Looking at Mohaymen on the bottom he had Dixie Union. Now, Union Rags did win the Belmont Stakes, but Dixie Union was on top. On the bottom was Gone West who did sire  Belmont Stakes winner Commendable. So you are right to think that Mohaymen could be suspect on the bottom. Of course, they said the same about American Pharoah on the bottom, but his bloodline on top had a Belmont Stakes winner. Sometimes the stallion influences on top can in American Pharoah's case be helpful. Or the stamina influence perhaps can come from further back in the female family as Steve Haskin has opined. In that case, Northern Dancer through Dixieland Band could be the ticket. It will be interesting to see.


"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

curtis

Quote from: Man o Taz on February 11, 2016, 09:21:19 AM
Thanks Dusty.

I think you are right peeptoad.

I have always been skeptical of the Tapit's getting 10-12 furlongs.

I know they have done it, but it is the bottom that has really helped them.

Frosted just did through Fast Cookie by Deputy Minister
Tonalist - through Pleasant Colony

Looking at Mohaymen on the bottom he had Dixie Union. Now, Union Rags did win the Belmont Stakes, but Dixie Union was on top. On the bottom was Gone West who did sire  Belmont Stakes winner Commendable. So you are right to think that Mohaymen could be suspect on the bottom. Of course, they said the same about American Pharoah on the bottom, but his bloodline on top had a Belmont Stakes winner. Sometimes the stallion influences on top can in American Pharoah's case be helpful. Or the stamina influence perhaps can come from further back in the female family as Steve Haskin has opined. In that case, Northern Dancer through Dixieland Band could be the ticket. It will be interesting to see.
I would have to disagree if your arguing that Gone West is a stamina influence based on Commendable winning the Belmont.  Commendable was a miler who was let loose on the lead that day.  He rated nicely--had a HOF trainer--and got the distance, at least better than his competitors.  I wouldn't blindly jump on any offspring of Union Rags or Palace Malice either as they only got 12f better than their competitors in their Belmonts.  Pedigree is fun to look at and if you go back far enough all horses will have stamina influences.  Sometimes if you want to see something you'll see it, often times though not until after the fact.  It's ironic that Haskin would cite Northern Dancer.  When Northern Dancer lost the Belmont thus thwarting his Triple Crown bid, the reason stated was that he couldn't get 12f.  Of course, I'm not saying he isn't a stamina influence.  No one knew that though until his offspring proved they could stay. 

I remember back in the '80's in so. CA there were these two full brothers--The Big T and Amanotherbrother.  Both were big long striding horses who were allowance types early on and then went down the ladder.  The Big T needed at least 8.5f to show his best stuff.  Amanotherbrother was specialist at 6.5f down the hill at Santa Anita but he could be effective at up to 8.5f.  If you spit on the track in front of The Big T he wouldn't try at all--he just hated mud.  He also was not real fond of winning.  Amanotherbrother, on the other hand, was a win machine who was one of the best off track horses I've ever seen.  We had a trainer there at the time named Johnny Bucalo.  He trained an inordinate amount of off track specialists.  Back then, they would be designated in the DRF with either an *--likes mud-- X--loves mud or a circled X--which meant a superior mudder.  It was pretty rare for a horse to get the superior mud mark but Bucalo had one named Brass and as already stated he had others in his barn which carried the lesser marks next to their names.   One day a horseman went up to Bucalo and asked him what his secret was with mudders.  He said he was a little busy but if he came back after training he's share his knowledge.  So a few hours later, that horseman and several others came to Bucalo as if he were an equestrian Obi-Wan Kenobi.  Bucalo said, "Well...you see, after it rains, I take 'em out and see if they can run in it, if they can then I know they like mud."

Man o Taz

That is a priceless story.

I thought I suggested it was right to suspect Mohaymen on the top and the bottom.

Gone West did produce Commendable, but I am not familiar with any other major stakes winning horses at 10-12 furlongs he sired. And you are right - if you go back far enough you usually get there with them all.
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

#24
1. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 20
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

2.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 18
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes or G1 Wood Memorial
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

3. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
2nd G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

4. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
Trainer: Dale Romans
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

5. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band 24
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 92
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 88
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

6. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: ?
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

7. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

8. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

9. Suddenbreakningnews (Mineshaft by A.P. Indy and Uchitel by Afleet Alex by Northern Afleet by Afleet by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Donnie Van Hemmel
G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 93

10. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

11. Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth/G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin

12.Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
7th G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 83
Springboard Mile

On The Bubble:
Whitmore (Pleasantly Perfect by Pleasant Colony by His Majesty by Ribot and Melody's Spirit by Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy by Storm Cat) (4)
Trainer: Ronald Moquet
2nd G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
Next Race:?
Trainer: Bruce Levine

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Zulu (Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

1. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 70
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Fountain of Youth, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

2.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 18
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes or G1 Wood Memorial
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

3. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
2nd G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

4. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
Trainer: Dale Romans
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

5. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band 24
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 92
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 88
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

6. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

7. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

8. Suddenbreakningnews (Mineshaft by A.P. Indy and Uchitel by Afleet Alex by Northern Afleet by Afleet by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Donnie Van Hemmel
G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 93

9. Gun Runner (Candy Ride by Ride The Rails, by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector and Quiet Giant by Giant's Causeway) 51
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Steve Asmussen
G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

10. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

11. Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song)
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth/G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin

12.Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
7th G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 83
Springboard Mile

Zulu (Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird) 20
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
2nd G2 Fountain of Youth

On The Bubble:
Whitmore (Pleasantly Perfect by Pleasant Colony by His Majesty by Ribot and Melody's Spirit by Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy by Storm Cat) (4)
Trainer: Ronald Moquet
2nd G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G3 Spiral Stakes, 9 furlongs?
6th G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz


1. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 70
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Fountain of Youth, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

2. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
2nd G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

3. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
Trainer: Dale Romans
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

4. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band 24
Next Race: G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert
G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 92
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 88
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

5. . Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

6. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

7. Suddenbreakningnews (Mineshaft by A.P. Indy and Uchitel by Afleet Alex by Northern Afleet by Afleet by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Donnie Van Hemmel
G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 93

8. Gun Runner (Candy Ride by Ride The Rails, by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector and Quiet Giant by Giant's Causeway) 51
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Steve Asmussen
G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

9. Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song) 50
Next Race: G2 Fountain of Youth/G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G3 Gotham Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 87

10. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

11.Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
7th G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 83
Springboard Mile

12. Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 23
Next Race: G1 Wood Memorial, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Gotham Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

Zulu (Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird) 20
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
2nd G2 Fountain of Youth

On The Bubble:
Whitmore (Pleasantly Perfect by Pleasant Colony by His Majesty by Ribot and Melody's Spirit by Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy by Storm Cat) (4)
Trainer: Ronald Moquet
2nd G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G3 Spiral Stakes, 9 furlongs?
6th G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

Shake up coming??? I cam hardly wait !
May they run with the wind

Man o Taz

#28
Quote from: Dusty on March 12, 2016, 11:30:24 PM
Shake up coming??? I cam hardly wait !

Not as much as you might think. :)

Once I choose my horses I stick with them for better or worse pretty much.

Mohaymen has done nothing wrong. Some suggest that his speed figures have not improved and that he is running the same race over and over again, but there has been consensus that his competition has been getting stronger in each race, and he has been defeating that competition from 1 to 3 lengths in his last 3 races.

Exaggerator I thought was taken wide by Smokey Image. I think he is still a quality horse and better than Mor Spirit.

And I am not sold on Destin or Danzing Candy yet. I love the Candy Rides, but I need to see more from him.

1. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 70
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G2 Fountain of Youth, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

2. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 26
Next Race: G1 Santa Anita Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Keith Desormeaux
3rd G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

3. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band 44
Next Race: G1 Santa Anita Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Bob Baffert
2nd G2 San Felipe, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 92
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs. BSF 88
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

4. . Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 14
Trainer: Dominick Schettino
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
2nd, G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

5. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
G1 Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

6. Suddenbreakningnews (Mineshaft by A.P. Indy and Uchitel by Afleet Alex by Northern Afleet by Afleet by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Donnie Van Hemmel
G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 93

7. Gun Runner (Candy Ride by Ride The Rails, by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector and Quiet Giant by Giant's Causeway) 51
Next Race: G2 Louisiana Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Steve Asmussen
G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

8. Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song) 50
Next Race: G1 Wood Memorial
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
G3 Gotham Stakes, 8.5 furlongs BSF 87

9. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 15
Next Race: G3 Gotham Stakes
Trainer: Chad Brown
4th G3 Withers Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

10. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G1 Bluegrass Stakes, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Dale Romans
7th G2 Tampa Bay Derby, 8.5 furlongs
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

11.Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West) 10
Next Race: G2 Rebel Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Jinx Fires
7th G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 83
Springboard Mile

12. Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 23
Next Race: G1 Wood Memorial, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Jason Servis
G3 Gotham Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
G3 Withers Stakes, BSF 87
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

Zulu (Bernardini and Temporada by Summer Squall by Storm Bird) 20
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs
Trainer: Todd Pletcher
2nd G2 Fountain of Youth

On The Bubble:
Whitmore (Pleasantly Perfect by Pleasant Colony by His Majesty by Ribot and Melody's Spirit by Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy by Storm Cat) (4)
Trainer: Ronald Moquet
2nd G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

Gift Box (Twirling Candy by Candy Ride by Ride The Rails by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano and Special Me by Unbridled Song) 2
Next Race: G3 Risen Star, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Chad Brown

Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G3 Spiral Stakes, 9 furlongs?
6th G3 Risen Star Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Trainer: Mark Casse
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

There should be a shake up this weekend.

Suddenbreakingnews, Whitmore and Discreetness will be racing in the Rebel.

Is Sudden for real? Can Discreetness rebound from his lackluster effort in the Southwest? Is Whitmore the real star of that race? Or is it Cupid, the Baffert shipper?

We shall see. At least two of these horses will likely be coming off my list after this race, especially if Cupid finishes well. The margin for error is shrinking.

Zulu is also a question mark since he has not worked in over 3 weeks now. The FOY was a tough race for him and it seems to have taken a lot out of him. This will give him 1 work probably at most heading into the Florida Derby. As a result, it looks like he may be heading north for the Wood, if not the Arkansas Derby, or he could be off the Derby trail altogether. 
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

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