Started by Man o Taz, May 03, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
Previous topic - Next topicQuote from: The Tin Man on July 05, 2014, 11:20:34 PMWhat race would Shared Belief and Tonalist target if not the Classic? I don't doubt the gossip that you're passing on but it sounds suspiciously like owner/trainer speak.
Just read a DRF article saying that Junior's long term goal for the year is the Breeders' Cup Classic ...
That is incorrect. He'll be entered in 3 BC races ... The ONLY way he will run in the Classic is if Tonalist or Shared Belief does ...
Otherwise, look for him in a different BC race ... that either Tonalist or Shared Belief or BOTH are in.
Bank on it.
They ARE correct about the desire to be a prep in a race to be written for him at Los Alamitos though. Steve and company are very loyal to Los Al and would love to prep there for the track.
Quote from: curtis on July 06, 2014, 09:17:55 PM
What race would Shared Belief and Tonalist target if not the Classic? I don't doubt the gossip that you're passing on but it sounds suspiciously like owner/trainer speak.
Quote from: The Tin Man on July 06, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
The "gossip" is directly from the owner/trainer ... although I'm not sure why info directly from the owner/trainer would be considered "gossip" ... seems like a pretty good source to me.
Also ... for those speculating that there will be more than 1 prep race before the BC ... not gonna happen unless they do a total 180 ... definitely not in the plans as of right now.
Quote from: Man o Taz on July 07, 2014, 06:41:23 AM
I have to defer and trust in Shared Belief's connections.
Its a very big ask IMHO.
The Pacific Classic will be the Kentucky Derby on steroids for Shared Belief.
A horse usually gets 2-3 preps for a top 10 furlong race against other three year olds.
To have yet to face the best horses in your generation, and step right up into open company against elders could be a very tough spot.
However, I think I understand the thinking. It is sort of like Blame's entry in the Jockey Club Gold Cup - it was a true prep for the BC Classic. The connections knew he might not win the race, but it would get him ready to win the BC Classic. I think Mr. Hollendorfer is looking at the race this way too. He might not win, but he will be tested and ready for the BC Classic.
And then again, who is expected for the Pacific Classic? Game On Dude while incredible in the Santa Anita Handicap, does not appear to have recovered his form from that race. Majestic Harbor? Who knows what he'll do having finished 3rd on both turf and synthetic in his youth. Imperative is no monster either. Perhaps this is the year the older horses can be taken by the a three year old - even a lightly raced one. I would be worried about a European horse entering the race with Acclamation's pedigree. I just saw Side Glance run in the UN and he seems to me to be an older horse that would be tough to reckon with in the Pacific Classic.
Its just a question of what you feel is a bigger challenge I guess - facing elders at 10 furlongs for the first time or travelling cross country. Untappable is the only horse entering the Haskell. He could walk away with a $1 million win there and still run in the Pacific Classic for the bonus...but it seems his connections want to keep him lightly raced to make certain his feet do not bother him. Zenyatta though was rumored to hate the Del Mar polytrack surface so I hope going 10 furlongs there does not bother Shared Belief.
I also wonder if Jungle Racing is ready to sell him after this year and that is why they are taking such an aggressive approach with him.
Jr., on the other hand, has proven his mettle against the best of his generation this year all ready so I am not worried about him. He'll be fine no matter his prep.