NOT a good morning at DelMar
The full DRF story (free): http://www.drf.com/news/beholders-workout-postponed-following-three-injuries-horses-saturday
I hope Art doesn't have a stomach ache too!
Dutchessa was put down following the 2nd race after breaking down after the wire.
There was a horse in the 8th race (one before the San Diego Hcp) who was pulled up and DNF. I'm eagerly awaiting reports on how the San Diego horses came out of that race.
Quote from: Flanders on July 23, 2016, 05:23:47 PM
Dutchessa was put down following the 2nd race after breaking down after the wire.
Had won her prior 2 races and 7 overall.
This was her 34th lifetime start, first on dirt
IIRC, the name of the horse who pulled up entering the stretch in the 8th was Ish.
Quote from: BaroqueAgain1 on July 24, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
IIRC, the name of the horse who pulled up entering the stretch in the 8th was Ish.
Yes, Ish..that's the horse. Does anyone know his condition?
Quote from: CA_Chrome on July 24, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
Yes, Ish..that's the horse. Does anyone know his condition?
The chart says she walked off.
The filly Fasnacloich broke down in the 2nd, a 1-mile AOC on the turf and, per DRF's Privman, her injuries were so severe that she has been euthanized. :'(
Frack
There's an update for Big Book, which doesn't sound wonderful. :(
Vets uncertain whether they can save Big Book
Big Book, a three-time winner who was graded stakes-placed last year, remained under evaluation on Sunday, a day after sustaining sesamoid injuries in a workout at Del Mar. Trainer Tim Yakteen said veterinarians were assessing whether Big Book could undergo an operation and be saved as a broodmare.
The rest of the article is behind the paywall: http://www.drf.com/news/preview/vets-uncertain-whether-they-can-save-big-book
I've been holding my breath on her as well as on Stradivari (Saratoga), who also has a sesamoid injury, in addition to a condylar fractuure.
Quote from: Flanders on July 24, 2016, 02:35:35 PM
The chart says she walked off.
RIP = I was afraid of that...
Quote from: Dusty on July 24, 2016, 05:44:38 PM
RIP = I was afraid of that...
Why on earth didn't Garcia have her vanned off?
There's 7 that had to be put down since the beginning of this meet, middle of last week.
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/del-mar-recent-rash-equine-injuries-raises-concerns-draws-protest/
Trying my best to follow the logic with regards to protests and unhappy people......Mr. Mandella thought it not safe to work his prize mare one day BUT IT WAS OKAY TO SEND HER OUT THE FOLLOWING MORNING EVEN THOUGH THE TRACK MANAGEMENT SAID WE DIDN"T TAKE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION.
Huh?
Quote from: stark on July 25, 2016, 08:38:47 PM
Trying my best to follow the logic with regards to protests and unhappy people......Mr. Mandella thought it not safe to work his prize mare one day BUT IT WAS OKAY TO SEND HER OUT THE FOLLOWING MORNING EVEN THOUGH THE TRACK MANAGEMENT SAID WE DIDN"T TAKE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION.
Huh?
From what I hear that is not exactly - true - they "firmed up " the portion of the track that seemed loose... why they would say they did nothing --well decide for yourself
The "news " is not good - I am still not sure the surface change was a wise idea - go back a few years - DelMar is where the turf meets the surf - very challenging to keep a surface consistent - the synthetic seemed to work but they never invested in the experts = say what you will but Hollywood Park had one of the safest and fairest synthetic tracks in America - sorry but the crew at DelMar is lacking - for them to say all is well is is to me an offense
More on Saturday = Duchessa and another in race 2 the injuries and breakdowns continue
Quote from: Dusty on July 26, 2016, 10:48:41 PM
The "news " is not good - I am still not sure the surface change was a wise idea - go back a few years - DelMar is where the turf meets the surf - very challenging to keep a surface consistent - the synthetic seemed to work but they never invested in the experts = say what you will but Hollywood Park had one of the safest and fairest synthetic tracks in America - sorry but the crew at DelMar is lacking - for them to say all is well is is to me an offense
Del Mar has been fighting a sink hole near the quarter pole since a storm in 1980. Given the usage that the facility gets, it will probably never be fixed properly--surely not in the midst of a meet. They seemed to get the synthetic track figured out, to an extent, but they were always going to be limited by it, so hence the change. Don't expect anything more than a lot of spinning when explanations are given.
Did you know....
Del Mar regular maintenance - digs up the main track every Friday and Monday after training.
There's a good explanation why the track plays different (slower) on Fridays than Thursdays!
Chubasco, unstarted Mandella 4yo Tapit colt who cost $725k as yearling, euthanized this am after fracturing pastern following 5f gate work
So sad regarding Chubasco. In the case of a horse unraced this late in his 4-year-old year suggests the colt had problems that indicate this one should have been given a chance at a different career than racing.
Jay Privman
Del Mar: Grim, sobering start to Pacific Classic Day
A horse broke down badly during a workout and her rider was transported to a hospital during training on Saturday morning at Del Mar, just hours before Del Mar is to present the biggest race of the summer, the $1 million Pacific Classic, featuring Beholder, California Chrome, and Dortmund.
Shortly after the first renovation break at 7:45 am, a horse identified by clockers as the 3-year-old filly Alicanto, trained by Eddie Truman, broke down just past the finish line while working six furlongs from the five-furlong pole.
Her rider was thrown to the ground and did not move until being placed on a backboard by paramedics, who arrived quickly and transported him to a hospital.
Further information on both horse and rider will be reported when confirmed.
Training was halted when the incident happened, and the track is now being renovated anew.
Del Mar set an all-sources handle record of $25,060,204,
All the Marbles, a promising turf runner trained by Marty Jones, had to be euthanized on Sunday morning shortly after suffering a catastrophic ankle fracture just as he was completing a workout on the turf course.
All the Marbles was nearing the finish line when he was stricken and fell immediately to turf, throwing his rider, the former jockey Corey Black. Black scrambled out of harm's way. He was checked out at track first aid and was later reported to be ok, according to track stewards.
All the Marbles got to his feet, but the extent of his injury was severe.
All the Marbles was a 3-year-old colt by Lonhro out of the Belong to Me mare Miss Houdini who won the Grade 1 Del Mar Debutante in 2002. He had won once in three starts and earlier this meet was second by a nose in an allowance race on turf going 1 1/16 miles. He was bred and was owned by Bo Hirsch.
All the Marbles became the 15th horse euthanized, either racing or training, since the meet began July 15. There are still two weeks to go. There were nine horses euthanized from racing or training injuries last summer.
Of the 15 fatalities, 12 have occurred on dirt, three on turf. The two prior grass fatalities came in races. Of the 12 dirt fatalities, eight came in workouts, four in races. At least two of the fatalities were from suspected sudden heart or lung ailments, not fractures. All horses euthanized undergo necropsies at the University of California at Davis.
Aw...a Lonhro. :'( Not that all the horses aren't special, but I'm a fan of that Aussie black stallion's offspring.
I have a morbid, how-does-that-get done question, if anyone here has the answer.
UC Davis is up north. How does the track and/or owners transport a deceased 1000+ lb. animal there...and prevent decomposition during the long trip?
Or do they maybe not always ship the whole horse to autopsy, only the pertinent parts? Refrigerated truck, one assumes, that maybe makes the rounds of all the state tracks?
I would think that, if the necropsy is going to be thorough, all the horse is 'pertinent.' You need the body to study the organs, like the heart and lungs, and the legs to examine fractures or tendon/ligament injuries.
Since most of the fatalities were euthanized, UC Davis isn't really trying to find cause of death. I presume that they're studying the whole horse to gather data on why a horse broke down. And if the horse collapsed and died suddenly, they probably want to look at its cardiovascular system.
Sending the whole horse undoubtedly would be better.
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On Travers Day......
Del Mar race 3: two scratches reduce Pat O'Brien field to three runners
Outside Nashville (1) and Cautious Giant (2), the two longest shots on the morning line in the Grade 2, $200,000 Pat O'Brien Stakes today at Del Mar, have both been scratched, according to Del Mar's racing office, reducing the five-horse field to just three runners.
Masochistic (5) is the heavy favorite in the race, with Vyjack (3) -- making his West Coast debut -- the second choice. Indexical (4) rounds out the field.
Quote from: stark on August 27, 2016, 09:15:48 AM
On Travers Day......
Del Mar race 3: two scratches reduce Pat O'Brien field to three runners
Outside Nashville (1) and Cautious Giant (2), the two longest shots on the morning line in the Grade 2, $200,000 Pat O'Brien Stakes today at Del Mar, have both been scratched, according to Del Mar's racing office, reducing the five-horse field to just three runners.
Masochistic (5) is the heavy favorite in the race, with Vyjack (3) -- making his West Coast debut -- the second choice. Indexical (4) rounds out the field.
$0.50 TRIFECTA 5-3-4 $1.15 :OMG:
Quote from: stark on August 27, 2016, 09:15:48 AM
On Travers Day......
Del Mar race 3: two scratches reduce Pat O'Brien field to three runners
Outside Nashville (1) and Cautious Giant (2), the two longest shots on the morning line in the Grade 2, $200,000 Pat O'Brien Stakes today at Del Mar, have both been scratched, according to Del Mar's racing office, reducing the five-horse field to just three runners.
Masochistic (5) is the heavy favorite in the race, with Vyjack (3) -- making his West Coast debut -- the second choice. Indexical (4) rounds out the field.
That was a joke - how can they not get more entries for a race like this??? Going to lose that G2 status
My goodness - what are they doing at DelMar??? THIS could have been a disaster -
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoro ... y-durante/
HOPE the link transfers - watch the replay - over half of the field was affected....just unacceptable - how did they NOT SEE the debris????
Link didn't work, led to something else. Try this one - not actual picture but at least verbage. Or, video that actually shows the debri under the Jimmy Durante race video on Blood Horse. Should have been no contest. Hope all the horses came through OK. One (Garcia's mount, I think) jumped the debri.
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/journey-home-top-controversial-jimmy-durante/
Here's a link to the whole race and commentary from DRF.
http://www.drf.com/news/journey-home-wins-wild-edition-jimmy-durante-stakes
Sorry, I know it's not the popular thing to do but I"m siding with the house on this one, declaring the race a "no-contest" would have been the wrong decision, inconsistent with prior events.
I've certainly seen worse things, pigeons, seagulls, deer, fallen horses, jockeys on the ground, harness buggies flying in the air, a drunk trying boxing in the stretchrun, etc. etc. etc. that didn't refund money to the bettors. And withholding purse money from the winners would have been shameful.
The whole case for the other side is built around intentional neglect from the track, that's just silly, and what a catastrophe it could have been, the key word being couldhave. The fact is the field recovered and the race went on.
Was it a learning experience for the track, you bet it was. Will the styrofoam be nailed down or replaced before a single race is run today, you can bank on it.
Just when you think you've seen everything, or you think you know every possible way there is to lose a race, something like this pops up, and there will be something to trump it in the future. And then, everybody will say, "Remember that crazy windy day with the debris on the track at DelMar, good thing nobody got hurt"
Sorry, Stark. Just because in some prior events the house elected not to go to the hassle of refunding bets is no excuse for continuing to make the wrong decision.
Quote from: Catalina on November 27, 2016, 12:06:09 PM
Sorry, Stark. Just because in some prior events the house elected not to go to the hassle of refunding bets is no excuse for continuing to make the wrong decision.
So what happens the next time a jock is left standing in the gate and his loose horse causes havoc on the course?
Or, somebody blames the track super for a treacherous spot on the track where a horse took a bad step and caused chaos?
Its actually the future events I'm concerned about and the precedent that might've been set here. There could be a no-contest called somewhere every day I'm guessing.
How about the famous Artax race, how did they decide only ONE horse was worth refunding in that one? If ever a race should've been declared a no-contest it might've been that one.
Really not trying to be argumentative, just seeing it the same way the stewards did, the minority opinion for sure.
Meanwhile, at the track today.....
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Race 1
Trixies Topper
Race 5
Trump Diesel
RIP
race #9
#12 Spindle
good luck!!
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I want one! :D