2016 Kentucky Derby Preview: Nyquist vs. Mohaymen

Started by Man o Taz, March 28, 2016, 11:49:03 AM

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Man o Taz

So we have two top three year olds going at it this Saturday. What could be better?

The Tsunam-mi in Miami
The Feat On The Beach
The Thrilla in Flo-rid-da

In this corner we have the undefeated 6-0 two year old champion, Nyquist "the Annihilator" Reddam.

Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Doug O' Neill
Owner: Paul Reddam
G2 San Vicente, 7 furlongs BSF 100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl2BNPhOFwg

G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTI5q1Koopc

G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmgScLQOUtI

G1 Del Mar Futurity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiYIDtWnG2Q

G2 Best Pal Stakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ-oloJzJDM

And in this corner we have the undefeated 5-0 "Mayhem" Mohaymen al Maktoum. 

Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 70
Next Race: G1 Florida Derby, 9 furlongs, April 2
Trainer: Kiaran McLaughlin
Owner: Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid al Maktoum

G2 Fountain of Youth, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln65GwxbFrU

G2 Holy Bull, 8.5 furlongs BSF 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzdsNY5aL0g

G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeLM-9FwywA

G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryHq_7aPfDI

Who is going to win this battle of titans?
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Zenyatta


wow Man O Taz, that's quite the list of videos! I still have to be a homie and pick Nyquist. He's a gutsy competitor, and his speed is more tactical than Mohaymen's.

Senator L

Great work Man O Taz
I love grays  :chickendance:
Go Mohaymen  8)

Man o Taz

Glad you enjoyed.

First, I love both of these horses and it will be a shame that either has to lose.

Second, because of that I feel that no matter who wins it will be fine so long as they come out of the race well enough to context the Kentucky Derby.

Finally, I am leaning toward Mohaymen only because he has had a more traditional prep schedule.

Had Nyquist demonstrated the same turn of foot in the San Felipe I would probably be choosing him. But a 7 furlong sprint in mid-February to me is not the best way for a three year old horse to head into a 9 furlong race against the toughest competitor he will have faced all year.

I wish you all and them the best. And then bring on the Derby. 
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Raven

Thanks for posting the videos MOT
call no man happy till he dies. ~SOLON~

Man o Taz

RACE 14 Xpressbet.com Florida Derby (Grade I)  POST TIME - 6:48 PM

ENTRIES PLUS (FREE)  PPS & SELECTIONS PP (RACE 14)
Gulfstream Park STAKES

Purse $1,000,000. Three Year Olds. One And One Eighth Miles.

PP   Horse    Virtual
Stable   A/S   Med   Jockey   Wgt   Trainer
1   Sawyers Mickey (OH)      3/C   L   S Spieth   122   P R Walder
2   Fellowship (FL)      3/C   L   J Lezcano   122   S I Gold
3   Majesto (KY)      3/R   L   J Castellano   122   G Delgado
4   Nyquist (KY)      3/C   L   M Gutierrez   122   D F O'Neill
5   Copingaway (KY)      3/C   L   M A Vasquez   122   J Mejia
6   Chovanes (KY)      3/C   L   E J Zayas   122   J Navarro
7   Takeittotheedge (KY)      3/C   L   T Gaffalione   122   D L Romans
8   Fashionable Freddy (KY)      3/C   L   N Juarez   122   N P Zito
9   Mohaymen (KY)      3/C   L   J Alvarado   122   K P McLaughlin
10   Isofass (FL)      3/C   L1   J R Leparoux   122   F Abbott, III

Owners: 1 - Loooch Racing Stables ; 2 - Jacks or Better Farm, Inc. ; 3 - Grupo 7C Racing Stable ; 4 - Reddam Racing LLC ; 5 - Thoroughbred Champions Training Center LLC ; 6 - Gelfenstein Farm, LLC ; 7 - Bakster Farm LLC ; 8 - My Meadowview Farm LLC ; 9 - Shadwell Stable ; 10 - DB DOJO LLC

Breeders: 1 - Susan King; 2 - Jacks or Better Farm Inc.; 3 - Diamond A Racing Corp.; 4 - Summerhill Farm; 5 - Brereton C. Jones; 6 - J Armando Rodriguez Racing Stable, Inc; 7 - Mill Ridge Farm et al; 8 - My Meadowview LLC; 9 - Clearsky Farms; 10 - Woodford Thoroughbreds

Pedigrees (Sire - Dam, by Dam Sire): 1 - Flatter - Mrs. Debbie M , by War Chant ; 2 - Awesome of Course - Go Girlfriend Go , by Demidoff ; 3 - Tiznow - Unacloud , by Unaccounted For ; 4 - Uncle Mo - Seeking Gabrielle , by Forestry ; 5 - Brother Derek - Copeaway , by Copelan ; 6 - Colonel John - Joyance , by Pulpit ; 7 - Broken Vow - Willathewest , by Gone West ; 8 - Tiznow - High Button Shoes , by Carson City ; 9 - Tapit - Justwhistledixie , by Dixie Union ; 10 - Rodman - Lucky Mama , by El Corredor ;
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

THANK YOU Man O Taz!
May they run with the wind

Man o Taz

Takeittothedge will be sent to the front according to Dale Romans. So this could be a very interesting race. He is quick and gives Nyquist a target which could help him.
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Raven

Nyquist has never run a race that would beat Moheymen's best
Having said that, the pp might hurt Moheymen
So that might set the race up for non other than Fellowship
So my exacta box is: Moheymen with Fellowship

Good luck to all the horses and the bettors
call no man happy till he dies. ~SOLON~

Raven

Was way wrong about Nyquist
He is a Monster!!
call no man happy till he dies. ~SOLON~

Man o Taz

That he is.

A smart horse who loves to compete.

You cannot teach that. You have to be born with it.

I do not know if he gets 10 furlongs, but there is no doubt that he will try and his will alone may be enough to get the job done this year.

"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

Quote from: Raven on April 02, 2016, 04:05:45 PM
Was way wrong about Nyquist
He is a Monster!!

I am on the same boat - was surprised - but WOW :OMG:
May they run with the wind

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