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Started by Man o Taz, September 25, 2014, 08:09:21 AM
Previous topic - Next topicQuote from: Man o Taz on September 26, 2014, 10:37:03 AM
Here's a nice article about Mr. Hollendorfer and his charge, Shared Belief.
Jerry Hollendorfer's Patience Pays With Shared Belief
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-shared-belief-dwyre-20140925-column.html
I didn't know Mr. Ward was an assistant of Mr. Frankel.
Here's an article on three year olds...
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/horses/2014/09/25/shared-belief-fellow-year-olds-lead-breeders-cup-chase/16222227/
Quote from: Man o Taz on September 29, 2014, 07:00:59 AM
Second, I have watched Victor Espinosa carrying Shared Belief wide several times and I, frankly, see nothing wrong with it. If he had bumped the horse, or otherwise created a dangerous situation I could understand that, but I think its nothing more than gamesmanship unless it creates a dangerous situation. Just my opinion.
Quote from: Man o Taz on September 29, 2014, 08:09:07 AM
I have not read anything from the owners of Sky Kingdom. If you find anything I would like to read it.
I also did not have any problem with John Velazquez's ride on To Honor and Serve that pushed Mucho Macho Man wide in the 2013 Woodward Stakes.
Where is there evidence that there was a preconceived plan?
Where is there evidence that Mr. Espinosa's conduct was reckless or dangerous?
Did Mr. Espinsoa touch Shared Belief? Not that I saw.
Just because the steward's acted and handed out a fine demonstrates that they were right?
That would suggest that the steward's have never been wrong and can never be wrong.
They didn't take Game On Dude down in the 2011 Santa Anita Handicap where I thought he should come down.
They didn't take Main Sequence down for running into Twilight Eclipse in the Joe Hirsch.
And Mr. Hollendorfer did not make anything of it...
http://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Shared_Belief_Fine_After_Awesome_Again_Mugging_123
asked about the incident just after the race was official, Hollendorfer said, "We're all big boys . . . It's no big deal for me. Mike will have to settle with Victor. It's not the worst thing in the world to have a tough race and be double-fit for the Breeders' Cup. That race will be tougher so we need to be tougher, too."
He confirmed those thoughts Sunday morning. "We're big boys out here racing and as long as we won, we overcame a lot, so I'm grateful to get the win."
Were they right in all those instances? Not necessarily - and that does not mean they were right here.
Quote from: peeptoad on September 29, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
The ride was not reckless, but Espinoza did not ride his mount to win. It was definitely a premeditated/intentional move. Smith even said after the race he was trying to take back on Shared Belief to get inside and Victor wouldn't let him. Every time he let up on SB or accelerated with him, Victor did the exact same thing with Sky Kingdom. He clearly violated the rule book (which I don't have time to look for right now, but an excerpt was posted on DRF yesterday).
Quote from: Senator L on September 29, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
I'm in total agreement with Man o taz and now I don't have to type a thing :chickendance:
Junior Alvarado almost got someone killed and all he did was get taken off his mount.
California Chrome gets boxed in and its race riding.
It should be the same rules on a 10k claimer and million dollar horse
all that said I would probably be pissed if that was my horse