Started by Man o Taz, May 19, 2014, 06:23:57 AM
Previous topic - Next topicQuote from: Man o Taz on May 27, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Me too!!!
Matterhorn - This Tapit son is the latest to be added to the list of potential starters.
California ChromeCandy Boy
Commanding Curve
CommissionerIntense Holiday- too bad. Really was looking forward to see him.
Kid Cruz
Matterhorn - the newest potential entry this son of Tapit was 4th in the G2 Peter Pan Stakes.
Matuszak
Medal Count
Ride On CurlinRing Weekend
Samraat
Social Inclusion
Tonalist
Wicked Strong
12 possible entries.
Quote from: Man o Taz on May 30, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Well, if this is the field I am going to do a combination of my Derby and Preakness picks.
Derby Picks
California Chrome
Wicked Strong
Ride On Curlin
Commanding Curve
Preakness Picks
California Chrome
Ride On Curlin
Kid Cruz
General a Rod
Belmont Picks
California Chrome
Wicked Strong
Commissioner
Kid Cruz
I believed in Commanding Curve for the Kentucky Derby, but for some reason I do not think he is as strong a choice for the Belmont Stakes. I think he would have been a better fit for the race if he had trained more at Belmont Park. Churchill and Belmont are two different race tracks. I don't know who the last Belmont Stakes winner was who prepped at Churchill Downs for the race was, but I cannot imagine there are many (I thought maybe Sarava or Drosselmeyer) so Commanding Curve may prove me wrong. No doubt he had a sharp work out at Churchill just like California Chrome did this weekend, but one was over the surface he'll be racing over and the other was over the quirky Churchill surface.
I think Commissioner is a stronger choice given his effort in the Peter Pan Stakes.
I am giving Kid Cruz another chance since he just did not fire in the Preakness.
Quote from: Man o Taz on May 30, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Well, if this is the field I am going to do a combination of my Derby and Preakness picks.
Derby Picks
California Chrome
Wicked Strong
Ride On Curlin
Commanding Curve
Preakness Picks
California Chrome
Ride On Curlin
Kid Cruz
General a Rod
Belmont Picks
California Chrome
Wicked Strong
Commissioner
Kid Cruz
I believed in Commanding Curve for the Kentucky Derby, but for some reason I do not think he is as strong a choice for the Belmont Stakes. I think he would have been a better fit for the race if he had trained more at Belmont Park. Churchill and Belmont are two different race tracks. I don't know who the last Belmont Stakes winner was who prepped at Churchill Downs for the race was, but I cannot imagine there are many (I thought maybe Sarava or Drosselmeyer) so Commanding Curve may prove me wrong. No doubt he had a sharp work out at Churchill just like California Chrome did this weekend, but one was over the surface he'll be racing over and the other was over the quirky Churchill surface.
I think Commissioner is a stronger choice given his effort in the Peter Pan Stakes.
I am giving Kid Cruz another chance since he just did not fire in the Preakness.
Quote from: The Tin Man on June 05, 2014, 08:02:04 AM
I've not followed who Beyer preferred in the Derby and the Preakness, but if I know him ... it wasn't California Chrome in either and it won't be CC in The Belmont either ...
I think we ALL know where he's coming from when he writes ... and it's not from objectivity ... just his usual East Coast bias BS ... His point of view means nothing when it comes to giving real value or credit to a West Coast horse. In fact, the less credit he gives to a top performing West Coaster ... the better that horse likely is.
I, personally, am very pro-West Coast and make no bones about it ... but when it comes to picking a race, I'm picking the horse I honestly think will win regardless of coast ... I thought Rachel was one of the most over-rated horses I'd ever seen(of top performers, that is), but when it came to her Preakness I SINGLED her on top of my Superfecta and got paid very handsomely for doing so.
I dropped MY bias and I got paid. I NEVER handicap from a West Coast bias standpoint. I personally support and love horses from one though ... but don't pick them from one.
Beyer would do well top drop his bias at the door when it comes to his public missives. Not doing so in such obvious situations like CC and Zenyatta just makes him continue to look like the fool he is.