Quote from: afleetphil on October 02, 2016, 12:43:07 PM
Chrome reminds me more and more of another chestnut, Same size. Same dominance. Secretariat. We may have a walk over in the BCC. In an earlier post a month ago I said that Chrome is in my top twenty all time greats if he wins the Breeders Cup this fall. I stand by that statement.
Quote from: afleetphil on October 02, 2016, 12:43:07 PMYou do understand what a walk over is, right? You have a right to any opinion you can formulate but if you think no other horse is going to enter a race in which second will pay as much or more than winning most any other race, I'd say your top-twenty proclamation may lack a little credibility.
Chrome reminds me more and more of another chestnut, Same size. Same dominance. Secretariat. We may have a walk over in the BCC. In an earlier post a month ago I said that Chrome is in my top twenty all time greats if he wins the Breeders Cup this fall. I stand by that statement.
Quote from: afleetphil on October 02, 2016, 12:43:07 PM
Chrome reminds me more and more of another chestnut, Same size. Same dominance. Secretariat. We may have a walk over in the BCC. In an earlier post a month ago I said that Chrome is in my top twenty all time greats if he wins the Breeders Cup this fall. I stand by that statement.
Quote from: curtis on October 02, 2016, 02:27:58 PM
You do understand what a walk over is, right? You have a right to any opinion you can formulate but if you think no other horse is going to enter a race in which second will pay as much or more than winning most any other race, I'd say your top-twenty proclamation may lack a little credibility.
Quote from: afleetphil on October 03, 2016, 06:59:09 AMFair enough, after I responded, it occurred to me you may have meant "cakewalk" and not walk over. Saturday pretty much proved to me once and for all that unless something is amiss, Chrome will beat Dortmund whenever they may meet. The Classic will have too much depth of competition to just hand it over to Chrome but he'll be a deserving favorite, no doubt. I, like Stark, am very aware of Arrogate. I do think that the Travers showed what he can do not necessarily what he always will do. There are some disappointed in Secretariat because he never ran back to his Belmont. Arrogate's Travers may be somewhat like J O Tobin's Swaps. He may never completely run back to it but don't fall to sleep on him. May they all show up healthy and ready to roll.
A walk over is when no one else shows up in the staring gate, the Bid in 1980 in I think it was the Woodward as an example.. I just can't see a horse out there right now that could challenge Chrome. I did make my comment tongue in cheek though.
Quote from: curtis on October 03, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
Fair enough, after I responded, it occurred to me you may have meant "cakewalk" and not walk over. Saturday pretty much proved to me once and for all that unless something is amiss, Chrome will beat Dortmund whenever they may meet. The Classic will have too much depth of competition to just hand it over to Chrome but he'll be a deserving favorite, no doubt. I, like Stark, am very aware of Arrogate. I do think that the Travers showed what he can do not necessarily what he always will do. There are some disappointed in Secretariat because he never ran back to his Belmont. Arrogate's Travers may be somewhat like J O Tobin's Swaps. He may never completely run back to it but don't fall to sleep on him. May they all show up healthy and ready to roll.
Quote from: afleetphil on October 03, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
How could Secretariat run back to his Belmont. That was unworldly. To better that performance he'd have to be flying thru the air. After his Belmont he actually ran a couple of races where he set records.
Quote from: afleetphil on October 03, 2016, 01:22:58 PMIt made sense either way. I was never disappointed in him, his Marlboro Cup was off the charts. I've seen plenty of people, though, refer to his Belmont as a fluke performance. Of course, they're usually trying to bolster the reputation of another horse. I got to meet Secretariat and feed him peppermint during Derby Week in 1987. When the groom brought him out, he simply introduced him as the best horse. Someone asked if he meant the best horse at Claiborne and the groom replied, "No, I mean the best!" Later he brought out Spectacular Bid and described him as a "great horse, but not the best." Someone mumbled that Bid was the best. The groom, very matter of factly replied, "No, he had his chance to be the best and he wasn't, he's a great, great horse, but Red is the best." I don't think the groom was ever disappointed either.
Perhaps I should have said "other worldly "