Quote from: Man o Taz on December 07, 2016, 07:42:17 AMI thought his shtick was--besides that mysogionistic, multiple bankruptcy thing--that he's not a politician?
No matter what you think of Donald Trump's politics I do not think there is any doubt he should be Time's Person of the Year.
Quote from: stark on December 07, 2016, 05:48:15 PM
Jill Stein on behalf of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is raising money for a recount @ Time.
Penny Chennery is taking notes on behalf of Arrogate, Beholder, Lady Eli and Songbird.
Quote from: curtis on December 07, 2016, 09:26:36 AM
I thought his shtick was--besides that mysogionistic, multiple bankruptcy thing--that he's not a politician?
Personally, if Time tried to sell the Electoral College Select as Person of the Year, I would never so much as pick up another issue. Even if they put me on the cover
Quote from: CA_Chrome on December 08, 2016, 03:48:54 AMI wasn't slamming the Electoral College. I don't believe that a candidate should be able to win the election by winning NY, CA, IL and one or two other highly populated states. Without the Electoral College, the same candidate would have won, and probably easier, as there would be no mechanism in place to limit the number of candidates. Enough Democrats would have "Felt the Bern" and would have thus weakened Hillary further. I do think the Electoral College needs some tweaking but not elimination. Since the winner compared himself to Secretariat--well he's half right😉--I figured it's fair game in here.
LOL! I was going to reply to the Electoral College slam but thought the better of it since this is a racing board, not a political one. Your comment is perfect and very funny.
Quote from: Man o Taz on December 08, 2016, 06:47:20 AMThey can promote Charlie Manson for Person of the Year for all I care. I just think they should be more sensitive to the public since that is who buys their product.
You are right again, but in fairness if Putin can win it so should Trump.
Quote from: curtis on December 08, 2016, 09:50:52 AM
I wasn't slamming the Electoral College. I don't believe that a candidate should be able to win the election by winning NY, CA, IL and one or two other highly populated states. Without the Electoral College, the same candidate would have won, and probably easier, as there would be no mechanism in place to limit the number of candidates. Enough Democrats would have "Felt the Bern" and would have thus weakened Hillary further. I do think the Electoral College needs some tweaking but not elimination. Since the winner compared himself to Secretariat--well he's half right😉--I figured it's fair game in here.
Quote from: peeptoad on December 08, 2016, 11:49:00 AM
...since he has red hair and "blows hard"?
Quote from: stark on December 08, 2016, 01:31:12 PMI dunno, what's the old saying: Those that speak the most, get the least? When I met Secretariat, he was pretty quiet. Book was full, though.😉
I think it might be fair to say, or at least arguable that Mr. Trump outperformed Secretariat in the breeding shed.
Quote from: curtis on December 08, 2016, 09:50:52 AM
I wasn't slamming the Electoral College. I don't believe that a candidate should be able to win the election by winning NY, CA, IL and one or two other highly populated states. Without the Electoral College, the same candidate would have won, and probably easier, as there would be no mechanism in place to limit the number of candidates. Enough Democrats would have "Felt the Bern" and would have thus weakened Hillary further. I do think the Electoral College needs some tweaking but not elimination. Since the winner compared himself to Secretariat--well he's half right😉--I figured it's fair game in here.
Quote from: CA_Chrome on December 08, 2016, 03:53:12 PMIt is what it is. Whoever gets more votes wins the Popular Vote. Where they live is irrelevant.
Oh, I misunderstood your previous post. My apologies.
I think the Electoral College is genius. If one looks at the electoral map of counties, it's easy to see that a few huge metro areas would completely dominate presidential elections if the Electoral College did not exist. Not even states, but only Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Seattle, Boston, DC and a few other densely populated urban areas would decide all presidential elections. The Electoral College not only prevents that, but ensures that the state elections are what matters. After all, we are a union of states, not a union of huge metroplexes. Hillary Clinton won over 8.7 million votes in California. Over 2.4 million from Los Angeles County alone. That is where her so-called popular vote lead comes from, but there really is no nationwide popular vote because we don't have a single national election. We have 50 state elections, and the Electoral College ensures a degree of parity among them when we vote for presidential tickets.