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Started by stark, September 17, 2016, 05:25:54 PM

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stark

Doug O'Neill ‏@DougONeill1 
Nyquist worked one mile this morning at San Luis Rey. He went in 1:38 1/5. Next stop, PARX

honneerider

Wondering how much of a nightmare the crowd will be with Songbird also in the house? Was planning on going-only an hour where I am at the Jersey Shore. Never been to Parx.
Missed SB at the Spa, and saw Nyquist (and rooted strongly for him) at the Haskell.

stark

Quote from: honneerider on September 17, 2016, 05:48:24 PM
Wondering how much of a nightmare the crowd will be with Songbird also in the house? Was planning on going-only an hour where I am at the Jersey Shore. Never been to Parx.
Missed SB at the Spa, and saw Nyquist (and rooted strongly for him) at the Haskell.

You have but one chance to enjoy.
Otherwise, it's I coulda,shoulda woulda, wished I'd done that.

afleetphil

Treat yourself and go a watch Songbird live. Saw her at Saratoga and she is quite the horse. How many times can you see a horse who is 10 for 10. On top of that she is a beauty.

stark

As of Friday, a field of nine was in the making for the Derby. The field was expected to include three-time Grade 2 winner Cupid, Travers third-place finisher Gun Runner, and Awesome Slew, the runaway winner of the recent Grade 3 Smarty Jones at Parx.

The other probable starters are Hit It Once More, who enters off two impressive stakes wins over New York-breds, Summer Revolution, Sunny Ridge, and Wild About Deb.

honneerider


You are correct! Always wished I had seen Z. Only a direct hour from here-was at the Devon Fall Classic yesterday, and took forever to get there but did not leave from home.
What forum members will I see there?

stark

#6
AWESOME SLEW E. Plesa, Jr.   
EXAGGERATOR   J. Desormeaux   
SUMMER REVOLUTION   R. Rodriguez   
CONNECT   C. Brown   
CUPID   B. Baffert   
WILD ABOUT DEB   P. D'Amato   
GUN RUNNER   S. Asmussen   
MY MAN SAM   C. Brown   
NYQUIST   D. O'Neill   
SUNNY RIDGE   J. Servis
DISCREET LOVER
HIT IT ONCE MORE

honneerider



11   Discreet Lover
12   Hit It Once More

stark

Quote from: honneerider on September 19, 2016, 12:54:33 PM

11   Discreet Lover
12   Hit It Once More

OOPS, my bad, thanks!

Man o Taz

Quote from: honneerider on September 17, 2016, 05:48:24 PM
Wondering how much of a nightmare the crowd will be with Songbird also in the house? Was planning on going-only an hour where I am at the Jersey Shore. Never been to Parx.
Missed SB at the Spa, and saw Nyquist (and rooted strongly for him) at the Haskell.

Unfortunately, if it was not an issue two years ago for Chrome it will not be an issue for Songbird.

I wish I was wrong.

"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

stark

The Morning Line....

1   Awesome Slew (FL)      3/C   L   P Lopez   122   E Plesa, Jr.   10/1
2   Exaggerator (KY)      3/C   L   K J Desormeaux   124   J K Desormeaux   9/2
3   Summer Revolution (KY)      3/C   L   M E Smith   117   R R Rodriguez   8/1
4   Connect (KY)      3/C   L   J Castellano   119   C C Brown   12/1
5   Cupid (KY)      3/C   L   R Bejarano   122   B Baffert   5/1
6   Wild About Deb (KY)      3/C   L   T J Pereira   117   R Preciado   20/1
7   Gun Runner (KY)      3/C   L   F Geroux   122   S M Asmussen   6/1
8   My Man Sam (KY)      3/C   L   J R Leparoux   117   C C Brown   20/1
9   Nyquist (KY)      3/C   L   M Gutierrez   124   D F O'Neill 5/2
10   Sunny Ridge (NJ)      3/G   L   J Bravo   122   J Servis   12/1
11   Discreet Lover (FL)      3/C   L   J L Flores   117   U St. Lewis   30/1
12   Hit It Once More (NY)      3/C   L   K Carmouche   119   G Sciacca   20/1



peeptoad


Zenyatta

Unless it rains, Nyquist all the way.

stark

Classic & Dirt Mile implications for Pennsylvania Derby
By: James Scully on September 21, 2016

Before they step up to face California Chrome in the $6 million Breeders' Cup Classic, Exaggerator and Nyquist will be seeking a measure of redemption in Saturday's $1.25 million Pennsylvania Derby (G2).

Preakness winner Exaggerator exits an 11th-place effort, beaten 33 length in the Travers (G1). Kentucky Derby victor Nyquist has dropped two straight since capturing his first eight starts, finishing off the board most recently in the Haskell Invitational (G1). Both colts will either proceed on to the Breeders' Cup Classic or skip the event entirely.

Circumstances are different for rivals Cupid, Gun Runner and Summer Revolution, with the Pennsylvania Derby serving as a stepping stone toward a potential Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile (G1) bid.

Inaugurated in 2007, the $1 million Dirt Mile filled a niche that was seen by many as a consolation prize.  Undistinguished early winners like Furthest Land and Dakota Phone did little to prop the event up, but fortunes have certainly changed in recent years with top-class performers Goldencents (2013-14) and Liam's Map capturing the last three runnings.

And a dynamite field could be assembled on November 4 at Santa Anita, with sprint champion Runhappy targeting the Dirt Mile for his second start back this season and top older horses Dortmund and Frosted both under serious consideration given possible distance limitations for the 1 ¼-mile Classic.

Ten furlongs is too far for multiple graded winners Cupid and Gun Runner, and the up-and-coming Summer Revolution has never been two turns.

Cupid will enter the Pennsylvania Derby on a roll, posting a hard-fought victory in the Indiana Derby (G2) before a four-length domination of the West Virginia Derby (G2), and the son of Tapit brings plenty of early speed to any engagement. Bob Baffert already has Arrogate, and possibly a couple of others, lining up for the Classic and the Hall of Fame conditioner likely recognizes that Cupid is more of a middle-distance specialist at this stage in his career.

Gun Runner has proven effective up to 1 1/8 miles, capturing the Louisiana Derby (G2), but was found wanting in the latter stages of the Kentucky Derby, weaving in and out in deep stretch as he saved third by a head. The Candy Ride colt also had little left for the final furlongs when third in the Travers, but he's unbeaten from four starts on a fast track at a mile or 1 1/16 miles.

Summer Revolution opened his racing career with a pair of smashing wins, registering a 104 BRIS Speed rating when capturing an entry-level allowance in early August, but he was hurt by a bad break in his stakes debut, the King's Bishop (G1). The chestnut son of Summer Bird still performed admirably, finishing less than a length back of runner-up Economic Model in a fourth-place effort, and is eligible to improve upon the experience for Rudy Rodriguez. Tough to envision him winning on Saturday but Summer Revolution can earn a trip out west with a solid showing.

With divisional honors still at stake, the Pennsylvania Derby is as an important race for Exaggerator and Nyquist. And the 1 1/8-mile test also promises to serve as a Dirt Mile prep.

Zenyatta

Stark,

Because of copyright, it's a good idea to just supply a link, even though it takes the reader off site ;) .

Thanks for the great summary of the Pennsylvania Derby!

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