This thread was posted not as a competition, but rather a place to share information regarding the progeny of two special mares (and sires).

Well, I assume that Cozmic One has returned to California for the winter with Mr. Shirreffs.

Since I have not seen any timed works for him I do not think we'll see a start in 2014.

Jess's Dream, however, has two works which seem solid...

November 23rd 4 furlongs in 49.56

October 15th 4 furlongs in 49.12

Now, I do not know if there were any works in September or even August at Saratoga....

Here is the answer...
http://www.drf.com/news/rachel-alexandras-son-jesss-dream-has-first-belmont-work

September 19th 3 furlongs in 36.84.

And it mentions that Cozmic One had worked..

http://www.drf.com/news/cozmic-one-zenyatta%E2%80%99s-first-foal-puts-timed-work
http://www.zenyatta.com/news/update-cozmic-one-at-belmont
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/86741/patience-key-for-shirreffs-with-cozmic-one

September 12th 4 furlongs in 49.45, final 3 furlongs in 37.01

Here is something from this summer from HRTV on Jess's Dream
http://www.hrtv.com/videos/jesss-dream-dreaming-big/

PS - PM me and I can e-mail some pictures from this summer if you like. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0JYRzmo5Hg

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/88982/epiphaneia-proves-easy-winner-of-japan-cup

Epiphaneia
Just A Way
Spielberg
Gentildonna

Ivanhowe

2013 Irish Derby winner Trading Leather RIP.

A heartwarming story of the successful efforts to save this horse...
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse-racing-steve-haskin/archive/2014/11/21/jj-and-anna-and-their-long-journey-together.aspx

We always liked him - after we first saw him win the Bayshore Stakes at Aqueduct.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/new-jersey-attorneys-claim-monmouths-future-dire-if-sports-wagering-not-allowed/

I was thinking about Jazil passing...the 2006 Belmont Stakes winner...and it reminded me that Bernardini is the only remaining Triple Crown winner from 2006.

With the passing of Deputed Testamony, Hansel became the oldest living Preakness and Belmont Stakes winner...he won both in 1991
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/84530/catching-up-with-hansel

Is he the oldest Triple Crown winner?

Yes.

However, the oldest Kentucky Derby winner is Sea Hero who stands in Turkey.

Go For Gin who can be seen at the Kentucky Horse Park is the oldest Kentucky Derby winner in the US.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/84523/catching-up-with-go-for-gin

The easy one is California Chrome.

A lot of people have spoken about their affection for this horse, how since Zenyatta no horse has drawn people to the sport like him, and his story and those of his connections are so compelling. He is likely the winner popularity wise but I think there are other worthy challengers.

I would like to add Shared Belief.

This horse had a ton of talent winning the Cash Call Futurity over two horses who for some time were in the mix for the Kentucky Derby - one who actually made the gate Candy Boy and the other Tamarando. His talent and performance earned him the two year old Eclipse. Because of his hoof problems, which I understand were painful, he endured an arduous rehabilitation effort and made his way back to almost winning the Breeders Cup Classic and being named horse of the year. This effort began really in late August and involved three open company races. To date, he is the only three year old horse to win two G1 races against older horses this year. It is an incredible feat.

The other horse I think should receive serious consideration is Wise Dan.

This horse is a total warrior. He knows what to do to win and he does it. He suffered a life threatening illness and rebounded to win two graded stakes races. Then, he suffered another injury that forced his withdrawal from the Breeders Cup which is a shame because with a win in the BC Mile it would have been likely that he would have won HOTY given what happened in the Classic. With Main Sequence, now it seems he may not even win champion turf horse. However, he has won the hearts of many with his heroic efforts. His connections are great as well. Mr. Lopresti is totally behind Wise Dan and his ability suggesting that he could run in the BC Classic or the Clark Handicap. When a microphone was held up to diminutive owner, Morton Fink, the response to the possibility of running in the Classic was succinct - "no" satisfied that his two-time Horse of the Year has nothing to prove to anyone.  Dan has been courageous throughout. He is my choice.

Who is your nominee?

Well, what could have been one of the strongest field in recent years with a ton of top three year olds entering has dwindled to maybe none.

Tonalist is at Payson Park.

California Chrome has been put on the shelf until next year.

Shared Belief is a question mark.

Nothing has been said about Bayern, but my thinking is of all the possible entrants, he is the top one. He has placed via disqualification over the Churchill track via disqualification, and his mentor - Game On Dude entered the race last year so his trainer is recently familiar with the race. And his owner seems a true sportsman, ready to tackle any challenge to see just how good this horse is. I have written before about Bayern's travels during this year. It is a campaign that harkens back to Cigar with the many cross country trips he has taken. Will he or won't he? If he does, he will certainly raise the angst and worry of his three year old challengers.

Mr. Martin, California Chrome's majority owner, seems firm that it would not matter how he did in a race against elders the media would tear him apart. He has conceded that Chrome is unlikely to win the award. Shared Belief, though being out half the year, has still raced 5 times. He might be fresh for another effort against elders. Mr. Hollendorfer is another trainer who is a true sportsman known for shipping his mounts across country to compete (See G1 winners Blind Luck and Sahara Sky).

Despite that, it looks like a nice field.

East Hall - Ohio and Indiana Derby and Sunshine Million Preview Stakes winner.
Constitution the promising Florida Derby winner is set to make his return.
Easter Gift last year's third place finisher and the recent victor in a Belmont allowance race.
Departing last had a second place finish in the Fayette Stakes.
Pick of the Litter - the winner of the Fayette enters.
Knights Nation a placed Dallas Stewart charge in a recent allowance race at Churchill

As impressive as this contingent looks...any of the top three year olds would be the favorite...since Constitution is the only G1 winner to enter.

Well, we know Shared Belief according to his trainer enjoys synthetic tracks more than dirt.

And we know that Kaleem Shah would love to race Bayern at Meydan...

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/horses/breeders/2014/11/03/jim-rome-wants-shared-belief-california-chrome-rematch/18420755/

Rome said he's expecting a "big 2015," and already hearing speculation his horse should contest the $10 million Dubai World Cup on March 28 — which Bayern owner Kaleem Shaw also wants to enter. (Jim, if looking for something sooner, there's always the $500,000 Clark Handicap later this month at Churchill Downs.)

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/breeders-cup/bayern-exits-classic-victory-in-good-order-dubai-world-cup-could-be-next-goal/

Trainer Bob Baffert initially expressed doubt about sending the colt next March to the Dubai World Cup, which will be run on the new dirt surface at Meydan. Baffert suffered a heart attack while in Dubai for the World Cup two years ago. But any hesitancy on the part of the trainer might be trumped by the owner. Kaleem Shah said Bayern might be considered for the World Cup. Baffert countered, "I'll take my cardiologist with me. He's ready. He wants to go." And good news for fans and a possible incentive for his reluctant trainer: Shah said of Bayern, "As long as he's healthy, he'll run at 4, 5 and 6." Toast of New York also is a candidate for the $10 million World Cup.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2014/11/03/UPI-horse-racing-roundup/3521414990908/#ixzz3IDK0nccm

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/horse-racing/toast-of-new-york-set-for-dubai-world-cup-push-after-breeders-cup-charge-behind-bayern

Toast Of New York looks set to race next in the Dubai World Cup in March after pushing Bayern to within a nose in an epic Breeders' Cup Classic at Santa Anita late Saturday night.

Would Team California Chrome make it a four-horse rematch?

California Chrome did break his maiden and the King Glorious Stakes at Hollywood Park and win the Graduation Stakes at 2 at Del Mar - so he seems to handle the synthetic surface OK.

So, maybe the four of them will be headed to Dubai for Round II?

Well, we have the field for the Breeders Cup Juvenile, though Street Sense remains the only winner to have won the Kentucky Derby.

Texas Red
Carpe Diem
Upstart
Great
Mr Z
One Lucky Dane
Souper Colossal
Lucky PLayer
Private Prospect
Blue Dancer
Daredevil

And then there is American Pharoah and Blofeld.

That said, I believe I'll Have Another's Derby year did have a lot of 2011 BC Juvenile competitors doing well in three year old races.

Hansen
2nd G1 Bluegrass Stakes
G3 Gotham Stakes
2nd G3 Holy Bull

Union Rags
G1 Belmont Stakes
3rd G1 Florida Derby
G2 Fountain of Youth

Creative Cause
2nd G1 Santa Anita Derby
G2 Sane Felipe
3rd G2 San Vicente

Dullahan
G1 Pacific Classic
3rd G1 Kentucky Derby
G1 Bluegrass Stakes
2nd G3 Palm Beach

Take Charge Indy
2nd G1 Clark Handicap
3rd G2 Fayette Stakes
G1 Florida Derby

And that was the top 5 - the you had Optimizer, Drill, Alpha and Daddy Long Legs who all won graded stakes races.

Not so much last year.

Nashua winner Blofeld.

I was just watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service in honor of him...

Possible entries:

Atreides
Bourbon Courage
Honor Code
Itsmyluckyda
Vyjack

Well, we have one...maybe...
http://www.dailynews.com/events/20141101/bayern-wins-breeders-cup-classic-amid-controversy

Bayern's owner, Kaleem Shah, said he plans to continue racing his Offlee Wild colt, raising the possibility that fans can look forward to the winner squaring off again against California Chrome and Shared Belief in 2015.

"He'll race as a 4-year-old, 5-year-old, and 6-year-old, if he can," Shah said. "I'm a horse racing fan first, and I know the fans hate it when good horses get retired. So I'm going to make sure as long as he's sound and Bob tells me he wants to run, he'll keep running."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyVg6J-5zow

What an exciting race.

Spielberg
Gentildonna
Isla Bonita (favorite)
Love Is Boo Shet
Hit The Target
Epipheneia
Denim and Ruby
Santono Noblesse
Curren Black Hill
Dark Shadow
Meiner Lacrina
Decipher
Martinborough
Fenomeno
Pelusa
Fragarach
Tosen Jordan
Asuka Kurichan

My picks were in bold...yeesh.

A Work In Progress...

Older Male
Palace Malice
Main Sequence (G1 Hong Kong Vase)
Wise Dan
Itsmyluckyday (G1 Cigar Mile)
Moreno (G1 Clark Handicap)

Older Female
Close Hatches
Beholder
Belle Gallantey
Don't Tell Sophia

Three Year Old Male
Bayern
California Chrome
Shared Belief
Tonalist

Now this is an interesting calculation because they are very close. Chrome has three G1s. He is a shoe in for me in the top three. His finish in the Classic also bolsters him. Now, one would think that Bayern also deserves to be there because of his Classic win. How do you choose between Shared Belief and Tonalist? Tonalist likely faced tougher horses out East than the elders that Shared Belief faced and he won the Belmont Stakes, but Shared Belief does have two wins against older horses - one at the Classic distance. Its a tough call.

Three Year Old Female
Untapable
Stopchargingmaria - two G1 wins
Artemis Agrotera - two wins against older horses
Sweet Reason - two G1 wins...
Fortune Plate - winner of the G1 Santa Anita Oaks

Who fills out the last place...

Two Year Old Male
American Pharoah
Carpe Diem
Daredevil
Texas Red

As it stands now American Pharoah has to be the leader with his two G1 wins. I would love for him to come East to the Remsen, but the odds are he'll stay west and go for the Cash Call Futurity.

Daredevil is on the cusp...Carpe Diem's finish in the BC Juvenile to me gives him the edge over Daredevil.

Texas Red holds the third spot...BUT this could change if Daredevil were to compete in and win the Remsen.

Two Year Old Female
Lady Eli
Takechargebrandi
Angela Renee
Christina's Journey
Puca

Aside from top two - no idea.

Turf Male
Main Sequence
Wise Dan
And I really do not know who is next...

Turf Female
Dayat thespa
Stephenie's Kitten
Emolient
Parranda
Miss Serendipity

Aside from Dayatthespa this is wide open.

Male Sprinter
Work All Week
Palace
Goldencents
Big Macher
Private Zone

Aside from the top 2 - who do you invite?

Female Sprinter
Judy The Beauty
Artemis Agrotera
Sweet Reason
Midnight Lucky

Aside from the top one - who do you invite?

There's more racing to be had so hopefully it will be clearer by year end.

Another crap shoot after the first one...

Many pundits and others are saying that Bayern should have been disqualified in the BC Classic.

Personally, I do not think so. There are two reasons for this. First, Bayern's actions did come at the start of the race and my understanding of the rules is that you cannot penalize a horse for what happens shortly after the break because it is impossible to control when you are dealing with thoroughbreds UNLESS you can prove that the jockey acted intentionally which is impossible to prove unless you have audio of the jockey or trainer giving such instructions or confessing. Plenty of incidents happen at the start of a race - Lookin at Lucky was hurt at the start of the Derby.

The second reason that Bayern should not have been disqualified was because his actions did not compromise Shared Belief's chances as Mike Smith indicated. I believe Shared Belief's chances were compromised in the stretch passing the grandstand for the first time when Smith had to pull up Shared Belief after being checked hard by the massive Toast of New York. Thus, if Bayern comes down so does Toast of New York in my opinion which would have meant putting up the 3rd and not 2nd place horse which would have created pandemonium and threatened the integrity of the sport more than leaving Bayern up did. .

Now, others suggest that the outcome of the race was changed at the break because VE Day, Tonalist and Moreno were compromised. Well, as noted, other horses have been compromised at the start of races without a foul being entered. Its the nature of horse racing.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-santa-anita-bayern-decision-20141102-story.html
http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/story/_/id/11806565/bayern-disqualified
http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-stewards-made-right-call-classic-bayern-deserving-champ
http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/derbywars/Routinely_Disgraceful_123

What do you think?

In the early 40s we had Mr. Longtail (AKA Whirlaway).



I think American Pharoah gives us the modern version...Mr. No Tail.

RACE 6 BREEDERS' CUP JUVENILE TURF (GRADE I)   POST TIME - 2:25 PM

ENTRIES PLUS PPS & SELECTIONS
Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double Pick 3 (Races 6-7-8) / Pick 4 (Races 6-7-8-9)

Santa Anita Park STAKES

Purse $1,000,000. For Colts And Geldings, Two-Years-Old. Weight: 122 Lbs.; $10,000 to pre-enter, $10,000 to enter, with guaranteed $1 million purse including travel awards of which 55% to the owner of the winner, 18% to second, 10% to third, 6% to fourth and 3% to fifth; plus travel awards to starters not based in California. One Mile. (Turf)
P#   PP   Horse   Virtual
Stable   A/S   Med   Jockey   Wgt   Trainer   M/L

1   Wet Sail (KY)              2/C      J P Spencer   122   C Fellowes   15/1
2   Daddy D T (KY)      2/R   L   C S Nakatani   122   J W Sadler   15/1
3   Luck of the Kitten (KY)   2/C   L   M E Smith   122   W A Ward   8/1
4   Commemorative (GB)   2/C      J Doyle           122   C Hills   8/1
5   Hootenanny (KY)      2/C   L   L Dettori           122   W A Ward   3/1
6   Conquest Typhoon (ON)   2/C   L   P Husbands   122   M E Casse   12/1
7   War Envoy (KY)      2/C   L1   R L Moore           122   A P O'Brien   9/2
8   Offering Plan (NY)      2/C   L   I Ortiz, Jr.   122   C C Brown   20/1
9   Aktabantay (GB)      2/C   L1   O Peslier           122   H Palmer   12/1
10   Startup Nation (NY)      2/C   L   J Rosario           122   C C Brown   12/1
11   Imperia (KY)              2/C   L   J Castellano   122   K P McLaughlin   6/1
12   International Star (NY)   2/C   L   J R Velazquez   122   M J Maker   15/1
13   Lawn Ranger (KY)      2/C   L1   C Landeros   122   K G McPeek   20/1
14   Danny Boy (KY)      2/C   L   J R Leparoux   122   D L Romans   20/1
Also Eligibles:
15   Faithful Creek (IRE)      2/C   L1   K Fallon   122   B Meehan   20/1
16   Papacoolpapacool (KY)   2/G   L   J Talamo   122   J Mullins   30/1

Owners: 1 - Qatar Racing, Ltd.; 2 - Hronis Racing LLC; 3 - Kenneth L. & Sarah K. Ramsey; 4 - Juddmonte Farms; 5 - Derrick Smith, Michael Tabor & Mrs. John Magnier; 6 - Conquest Stables, LLC; 7 - Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor, Derrick Smith & Joseph Allen, LLC; 8 - Michael Dubb, Bethlehem Stables, LLC & Nantucket Thoroughbred Partners, et al; 9 - V. I. Araci; 10 - Klaravich Stables, Inc. & William Lawrence; 11 - Godolphin Racing, LLC; 12 - Kenneth L. & Sarah K. Ramsey; 13 - Turf Stable LLC, Ted Melot and Magdalena Racing; 14 - Donegal Racing; 15 - Decadent Racing; 16 - Ali Nilforushan & John Snedegar

Breeders: 1 - Galleria Bloodstock; 2 - Mike Abraham; 3 - Kenneth L. Ramsey & Sarah K. Ramsey; 4 - Juddmonte Farms Ltd; 5 - Barronstown; 6 - Josham Farms Limited; 7 - Joseph Allen; 8 - C. W. Swann & Cygnet Farm; 9 - Fittocks Stud Ltd; 10 - Spendthrift Farm; 11 - Darley; 12 - Katharine M. Voss & Robert T. Manfuso; 13 - Scott E. Ricker & Carol M. Ricker; 14 - Ashview Farm LLC &Colts Neck Stables LLC; 15 - Tally Ho Stud; 16 - Chesapeake Farm & Gianca Stables

Equipment Changes: 15 - Faithful Creek (IRE) - Blinkers On

I like the way Danny Boy has been training and I like Luck of the Kitten as well. We'll see. Hootenanny may be the class of the bunch. 

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/features/long-live-the-queen-650

Toho Jackal Sets Course Record
http://www1.skysports.com/horse-racing/news/12426/9535848/toho-jackal-wins-kikuka-sho-in-course-record-time
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/88278/toho-jackal-streaks-to-course-record-at-kyoto

Well - I know where a couple of you are...but where are the rest.