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Title: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: stark on September 21, 2016, 05:33:47 PM
Comments by Steve Anderson DRF  Odds by Mike Watchmaker

Flintshire   Chad Brown   112-105-110   2-1   Joe Hirsch Turf, BEL, Oct. 1   
Has overwhelmed his American competition this year

Postponed   Roger Varian   NA-NA-NA   3-1   Arc de Triomphe, Chantilly, Oct. 2
Leader of European division, with four brilliant stakes wins this year

Found   Aidan O'Brien   NA-NA-NA   8-1   Arc de Triomphe, Chantilly, Oct. 2
Won the race in '15, second in five straight Grade 1 races in Europe this year

Highland Reel   Aidan O'Brien   NA-NA-NA   10-1   Champion Stakes, Ascot, Oct. 15   
Only seventh in ultra-tough Irish Champion on Sept. 10

New Bay   Andre Fabre   NA-NA-NA   12-1   Arc de Triomphe, Chantilly, Oct. 2
Likely for Arc, a focus for most European runners before BC Turf

Da Big Hoss   Mike Maker   97-100-100   15-1   BC Turf, SA, Nov. 5   
Having his best year, but this will be a very difficult assignment

Hawkbill   Charlie Appleby   NA-NA-NA   15-1   Champion Stakes, Ascot, Oct. 15   
Form has tailed off since win in Group 1 Eclipse Stakes in England in July

Money Multiplier   Chad Brown   109-100-103   15-1   Joe Hirsch Turf, BEL, Oct. 1   
Improving 4-year-old who was second to Flintshire in Sword Dancer

Ashleyluvssugar   Peter Eurton   102-103-102   20-1   John Henry Turf, SA, Oct. 2   
Best of California group, but has much more to find - and fast

The Pizza Man   Roger Brueggemann   101-98-96   20-1   BC Turf, SA, Nov. 5   
Popular 7-year-old was brilliant in Grade 1 Northern Dancer last Saturday
                   
AE: Grand Tito, Metaboss, Ralis, Twentytwentyvision
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: stark on October 01, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
Does likely favorite FLINTSHIRE have a chink in his armor now?

Javier on Flintshire: "Usually when you ask him he's got great acceleration and he didn't, he struggled the last part with the soft ground."

Chad on Flintshire: I knew the risks going in; his record's poor on soft ground I didn't feel entirely comfortable training him up to [BC]"
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: peeptoad on October 04, 2016, 02:52:44 AM
Flintshire's better on firm; he should bounce back I would think. Whether that means he wins is a question

Found is at least possible to run back in the Turf this year and is targeting the Champion S next:
http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=20511724&category=0 (http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=20511724&category=0)

Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: Senator L on October 04, 2016, 04:38:03 AM
Other than the soft ground it seems Euro's always have a stronger finishing kick
than NA horses. He'll be tough to take at such a short price
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: stark on October 06, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
Postponed, the beaten favorite in Sunday's Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe at Chantilly Racecourse in France, is doubtful to start in the Breeders' Cup Turf at Santa Anita on Nov. 5, trainer Roger Varian said on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: stark on October 31, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
1 Ralis Doug F. O'Neill Mario Gutierrez 30-1
2 Da Big Hoss Michael J. Maker Florent Geroux 20-1
3 Ectot Todd A. Pletcher Jose Ortiz 8-1
4 Flintshire Chad C. Brown Javier Castellano 5-1
5 Ashleyluvssugar Peter A. Eurton Gary Stevens 15-1
6 Mondialiste David O'Meara Daniel Tudhope 15-1
7 Ulysses Sir Michael R. Stoute Frankie Dettori 12-1
8 Twilight Eclipse Thomas Albertrani Joel Rosario 30-1
9 Money Multiplier Chad C. Brown John Velazquez 20-1
10 Found Aidan P. O'Brien Ryan Moore 3-1
11 Texas Ryano Carla Gaines Flavien Prat 30-1
12 Highland Reel Aidan P. O'Brien Seamus Heffernan 3-1
13 Metaboss Philip D'Amato Rafael Bejarano 30-1
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: stark on November 02, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Hmmm? FWIW

Mike Welsch ‏@DRFWelsch  18m18 minutes ago
Metaboss just pulled up suddenly near the quarter pole while galloping on  turf and horse ambulance is on the track.
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: peeptoad on November 02, 2016, 11:37:28 AM
Post an update please, if there is one... someone on the other board said they were concerned it's a condylar fracture.
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: peeptoad on November 02, 2016, 11:45:30 AM
retired. sesamoid fracture...
Title: Re: Breeders Cup TURF
Post by: peeptoad on November 04, 2016, 08:06:47 AM
For the win this is between Flintshire, Found and Highland Reel. Any other outright winner would be a bit of a surprise imo. The value horses for me are Ashlyluvssugar and Money Multiplier (who also gets back to his preferred firm ground). Of the top 3 if I had to take a stand on one it would be Found. She won this last year though under different conditions and, although she won the Arc over a firm course, I think she is better suited to ground with at least a little cut in it. I might just key Flintshire over a few price horses here