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Title: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on November 17, 2013, 12:31:02 AM
I started this topic on the other board and I'm bringing it back because of recent events concerning the horse that prompted me to start that topic. It makes me wonder who reads that board. Hmmm....

Of course,  what do I know, I am only a fan.

The horse of which I speak is Moments Notiz. He had at one time been running for as low as 12,500 at Indiana Downs and Turrfway,  but his form was very consistent and IMO he had a great deal of upside. Heck, Baffert brought Tough Tiz's Sis from Indiana Downs and she became a G1 winner. That's not to say this horse will do likewise,  but he has won on dirt, synthetic and in the slop, and his last Bris figure was a 99.

Imagine my surprise when I saw his name entered in a Starter Allowance @ Aqueduct, and under new ownership of David Jacobson. I guess since the previous owners only spent $2k on him and he's made $113K, they decided to sell him privately.

Oh, how I wish more than ever I'd reached into my pocket and shelled out that 12.5K. :banghead:
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Raven on November 17, 2013, 07:27:10 AM
Sam Sparkle

He is entered in a 35k claimer at Aqueduct on wednesday.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: The Tin Man on November 17, 2013, 09:17:32 AM
Luckarack ... Porfido ... and Cost Of Freedom.

Not only have they been excellent horses, but they're very cool ones too!

By the way ... I'm going to see Lava today ... hopefully I can morph that into seeing Ebby also. If I can get them to bring them out for pics, I'll post some here.  :)
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on November 18, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
Ea. I posted him in the thread on the other board too... he's entered in the 2nd (a 12500 claimer) at AQ in Thursday. If I had $12500 I would claim him and retire him. Jacobsen has him right now too...  :-X
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: serenassong on November 18, 2013, 05:28:10 AM
Gilligan, EA and Bigger is Bettor. They can all hang out togeather.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: The Tin Man on November 18, 2013, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: serenassong on November 18, 2013, 05:28:10 AM
Gilligan, EA and Bigger is Bettor. They can all hang out togeather.

I'm with you on Gilligan and Bigger Is Bettor too! Love both of them.

We have so many ponies that we follow in common.

I'm not sure who EA is though ... but I have a feeling that once you tell me, I'm gonna wonder how I didn't figure it out!
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Kennedy on November 18, 2013, 07:21:57 PM
Up With the Birds
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on November 18, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: peeptoad on November 18, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
Ea. I posted him in the thread on the other board too... he's entered in the 2nd (a 12500 claimer) at AQ in Thursday. If I had $12500 I would claim him and retire him. Jacobsen has him right now too...  :-X

Poor Ea. I hate seeing stakes horses reduced to this, esp in that barn.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on November 19, 2013, 05:03:19 AM
Quote from: serenassong on November 18, 2013, 05:28:10 AM
Gilligan, EA and Bigger is Bettor. They can all hang out togeather.

Bigger is Bettor has really been on fire lately... hope you had him in that stakes race on Sunday.  :rhrse:
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: serenassong on November 19, 2013, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on November 19, 2013, 05:03:19 AM
Quote from: serenassong on November 18, 2013, 05:28:10 AM
Gilligan, EA and Bigger is Bettor. They can all hang out togeather.

Bigger is Bettor has really been on fire lately... hope you had him in that stakes race on Sunday.  :rhrse:

I always back my handsome grey boy, I have been told he is a bit naughty around the barn, though. That's ok, still love him!
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Raven on November 20, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
Quote from: Raven on November 17, 2013, 07:27:10 AM
Sam Sparkle

He is entered in a 35k claimer at Aqueduct on wednesday.


My boy just won that race BIG!!!
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on November 21, 2013, 09:42:31 AM
Well, Ea runs in about 5 minutes at the Big A. He last ran at the Spa in August and has posted exactly one recorded workout since then. Hang in there buddy...
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on November 21, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on November 21, 2013, 09:42:31 AM
Well, Ea runs in about 5 minutes at the Big A. He last ran at the Spa in August and has posted exactly one recorded workout since then. Hang in there buddy...

Sigh.
Tracked in 3rd for the opening 1/2 mile, fell back steadily thereafter and was second last, but both trailing horses were distanced. He's 9. He's a gelding. He had nothing. Jacobsen PLEASE retire this horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually emailed Drawing Away Stables a couple of months ago, but they apparently could give a rat's ass.
Wish I had the 12,500 to claim him myself. Drats.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on November 21, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Moments Notiz won by daylight.

I think he is a future stakes winner.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Raven on November 21, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Zenyatta on November 21, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Moments Notiz won by daylight.

I think he is a future stakes winner.


You said that you should had claimed him.  Did you thought about it at the time?
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on November 21, 2013, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: Raven on November 21, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Zenyatta on November 21, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Moments Notiz won by daylight.

I think he is a future stakes winner.
You said that you should had claimed him.  Did you thought about it at the time?

I remember the race at TP, and thinking, what on earth is he doing here at such a low level? This horse has a lot of talent. He had finished 6th in his previous race at TP but I thought the turnaround may have been to quick. He has a nice economic stride, and well, he looks quite a bit like his sire.  At the time I would have done it but other circumstances prevented me (which wouldn't now, if I wanted to do it).

Jacobson ran him @ 6F today, but I hope he'll stretch him out to at least a mile. He would have had no problem handling it today IMO.  I'm curious to see what his speed figure will be from this race. He ran the 6F in 1:09 2/5, running the last quarter in :23 1/5. His last race at Indiana Downs was 1:08 2/5, a track record.  Heck, he could be any kind.

Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on December 05, 2013, 04:17:38 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on November 21, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
Sigh.
Tracked in 3rd for the opening 1/2 mile, fell back steadily thereafter and was second last, but both trailing horses were distanced. He's 9. He's a gelding. He had nothing. Jacobsen PLEASE retire this horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually emailed Drawing Away Stables a couple of months ago, but they apparently could give a rat's ass.
Wish I had the 12,500 to claim him myself. Drats.

Now he's entered Saturday at Laurel for a $5000 tag. I hope someone claims him, so he can go to a new (and hopefully, better) stable at least...
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: serenassong on December 05, 2013, 04:25:48 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on December 05, 2013, 04:17:38 AM
Now he's entered Saturday at Laurel for a $5000 tag. I hope someone claims him, so he can go to a new (and hopefully, better) stable at least...

I hope so, too. I think the boy has done enough. He's in the same race as one of the horses that I follow, Tea Tott- who has pretty much always run at that level. 
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: peeptoad on December 05, 2013, 04:36:09 AM
Quote from: serenassong on December 05, 2013, 04:25:48 AM
I hope so, too. I think the boy has done enough. He's in the same race as one of the horses that I follow, Tea Tott- who has pretty much always run at that level.
Well, we will see how he performs. He seems to be a fairly smart horse so hopefully he protects himself if something is physically amiss with him. I agree he's done enough. Good luck to Tea Tott as well; maybe he can give Ea some "claiming tips" lol.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on December 05, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
Dubai You X Y Z will be running at HP this weekend after a LONG layoff. I'm sure Tinny remembers his first start.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: The Tin Man on December 05, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
Quote from: Zenyatta on December 05, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
Dubai You X Y Z will be running at HP this weekend after a LONG layoff. I'm sure Tinny remembers his first start.

I know it was at HUGE odds ...

But I only learned that after the fact. I actually didn't see it when it happened ...

But ... I've eagerly awaited and cheered for him in all his subsequent races.  :)

I'm glad he's got connections that give him all the time he needs between races. It kinda makes it even more special when he runs.  :chickendance:
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: BaroqueAgain1 on December 06, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
  He did win today. I think the TVG guys called him 'fragile, but talented,' but he sure looked good.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Dusty on December 09, 2013, 10:54:49 PM
Ohhhh I would love to own Winding Way
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on December 15, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Moments Notiz ran last Thurs at Aqueduct and finished 2nd by about a neck. I think he coukd have won with a better trip but Inalso think Davidson is running him back too fast. He's not a claimer anymore, he shouldn't be running 2 weeks apart. Grumble. :banghead:
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on January 06, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: Zenyatta on December 15, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Moments Notiz ran last Thurs at Aqueduct and finished 2nd by about a neck. I think he coukd have won with a better trip but Inalso think Davidson is running him back too fast. He's not a claimer anymore, he shouldn't be running 2 weeks apart. Grumble. :banghead:

I'm eating the words in that post above. Moments Notiz ran on 12/26 and 12/31, and won both easily. This horse is something else indeed.

AND I got a new one, but he was claimed the other day at SA, for a ludicrous $8K. He won the first @ SA on 1/5, his name is Afflication.  I always thought he could at least be allowance level, and he may be stepped up after this last performance. He won by open lengths and earned a Bris 102 speed figure. Not too shabby.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: BaroqueAgain1 on January 07, 2014, 05:30:13 PM
  Re: Afflication...I think I saw a note on DRF that his claim was voided after the race due to unsoundness. And that this is not the first time a claim for has been voided.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: The Tin Man on January 07, 2014, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: Zenyatta on January 06, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
I'm eating the words in that post above. Moments Notiz ran on 12/26 and 12/31, and won both easily. This horse is something else indeed.

AND I got a new one, but he was claimed the other day at SA, for a ludicrous $8K. He won the first @ SA on 1/5, his name is Afflication.  I always thought he could at least be allowance level, and he may be stepped up after this last performance. He won by open lengths and earned a Bris 102 speed figure. Not too shabby.

He looked fantabulous in the paddock!

I wasn't very familiar with him pre-race, but when I saw him in the paddock .... He went straight on top of my Pick 5.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: serenassong on January 08, 2014, 04:34:51 AM
Gilligan is in a race on the 10th at GG, last work put him 6/45- and he not a fast worker generally.  I just want him safe.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/GG011014USA-EQB.html#RACE7
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: The Tin Man on January 08, 2014, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: serenassong on January 08, 2014, 04:34:51 AM
Gilligan is in a race on the 10th at GG, last work put him 6/45- and he not a fast worker generally.  I just want him safe.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/GG011014USA-EQB.html#RACE7

I guess if this cat is going to continue to run him, all we can do is hold our breath and hope somehow he ends up getting off the track safely.  :(
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Zenyatta on January 08, 2014, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: BaroqueAgain1 on January 07, 2014, 05:30:13 PM
  Re: Afflication...I think I saw a note on DRF that his claim was voided after the race due to unsoundness. And that this is not the first time a claim for has been voided.

I'm amazed that a horse with a pretty good race record, and one that won with authority last time out, not only is unsound, but is allowed to race after being found unsound on more than one occasion.
Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: Raven on January 14, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Sam Sparkle is entered on 1/18 in the seventh race at the Big A

Title: Re: Horses We'd Like to Own, the Sequel
Post by: serenassong on January 15, 2014, 05:41:13 AM
Quote from: serenassong on January 08, 2014, 04:34:51 AM
Gilligan is in a race on the 10th at GG, last work put him 6/45- and he not a fast worker generally.  I just want him safe.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/GG011014USA-EQB.html#RACE7

For those of you who did not know- he was second, just beaten on the line with the bad side of the bob.  Still nervous, but more and more eyes are upon him.