Man o' Taz's 2016 Derby Dozen

Started by Man o Taz, November 30, 2015, 02:36:05 PM

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Man o Taz

Some long shots in here.

1. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes, February 13?
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

2. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull, January 30?
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 94
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

3.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 8
Next Race: G3 Jerome Handicap, January 2?
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

4. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, February 6?
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

5. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: ?
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

6. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, December 19 or G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, February 6?
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

7. Swipe (Birdstone by Grindstone and Avalanche Lily by Grand Slam by Gone West by Mr. Prospector) 12
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, December 19?
2nd G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
2nd G1 Frontrunner Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
2nd Del Mar Futurity, 7 furlongs
2nd G2 Best Pal Stakes, 6.5 furlongs

8. Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

9. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

10. Sail Ahoy (Bernardini and Matlacha Pass by Seeking the Gold)
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes?
4th G2 Remsen Stakes
3rd G2 Nashua Stakes
4th G1 Champagne

11. Air Force Blue (War Front by Danzig and Chatham by Maria's Mon)
Next Race:
G1 Dewhurst Stakes, 7 furlongs
G1 Vincent O'Brien National Stakes, 7 furlongs
G1 Phoenix Stakes, 6 furlongs
2nd G2 Coventry Stakes, 6 furlongs

12. Arabian Leopard (Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy and Antoinette by Silver Hawk by Roberto by Hail To Reason)
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity?

On The Bubble: Morse Code (Tapit and Serena's Cat by Storm Cat),  Hoffenheim (Midnight Lute by Real Quiet and Circumstance by Vindication), ToewsOnIce (Archarcharch and Wild Forest Cat by D'Wildcat by Forest Wildcat),  Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

Its not too early to come up with your lists!

Tis the season.
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

peeptoad

It is too early for me... I'll make my list when the field draws in May 4th, 2016.
Kidding aside, I would find a list right now of horses trying to make the gate for a race on May 7 next year impossible to formulate right now.

Man o Taz

Fair enough.

Had to find something to do to deal with the gulf left from Pharoah and Honor Code retiring. lol
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

peeptoad

Quote from: Man o Taz on December 03, 2015, 08:25:55 AM
Fair enough.

Had to find something to do to deal with the gulf left from Pharoah and Honor Code retiring. lol

Oh, I hear you. That's when I usually turn to one of my other hobbies to distract me...  ;)

afleetphil

After American Pharoah's triple crown, it's a let down already talking about the 2016 Derby. But it will be here before we know it.

Man o Taz

And there are a lot of fun horses lining up.

Air Force Blue really has piqued my interest though I doubt he comes East.
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

#7
1. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes, February 13?
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

2. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull, January 30
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 94
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

3.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 8
Next Race: G3 Jerome Handicap, January 2?
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

4. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, February 15
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

5. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: ?
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

6. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Race: G2 Robert Lewis Stakes, February 6?, G1 Bluegrass Stakes, April 9?
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

7. Swipe (Birdstone by Grindstone and Avalanche Lily by Grand Slam by Gone West by Mr. Prospector) 12
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, December 19?
2nd G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
2nd G1 Frontrunner Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
2nd Del Mar Futurity, 7 furlongs
2nd G2 Best Pal Stakes, 6.5 furlongs

8. Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

9. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

10. Sail Ahoy (Bernardini and Matlacha Pass by Seeking the Gold)
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes?
4th G2 Remsen Stakes
3rd G2 Nashua Stakes
4th G1 Champagne

11. Air Force Blue (War Front by Danzig and Chatham by Maria's Mon)
Next Race:
G1 Dewhurst Stakes, 7 furlongs
G1 Vincent O'Brien National Stakes, 7 furlongs
G1 Phoenix Stakes, 6 furlongs
2nd G2 Coventry Stakes, 6 furlongs

12. Arabian Leopard (Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy and Antoinette by Silver Hawk by Roberto by Hail To Reason)
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity?

On The Bubble:
Morse Code (Tapit and Serena's Cat by Storm Cat)

Hoffenheim (Midnight Lute by Real Quiet and Circumstance by Vindication)

ToewsOnIce (Archarcharch and Wild Forest Cat by D'Wildcat by Forest Wildcat)
Next Race: G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, December 19

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

#8
Nyquist is dropped from 6 to 12 because I do not believe he will have developed enough of a foundation with a 7 and 9 furlong prep schedule. If this horse is distance challenged as many think, wouldn't a better approach be to rigorously condition him so that he is the most fit horse in the race? O'Neill did well with an 8.5 furlong prep and a 9 furlong prep with I'll Have Another so I do not know why the need to rethink it, but every horse is different so perhaps this is the best route for him. Training in Florida should help.

I also dropped Air Force Blue since the connections do not seem to be targeting him at all for the Derby.

Mor Spirit after his nice win in the Los Alamitos Futurity joins the list at 6.

1. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull Stakes, January 30
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

2. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull, January 30
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 94
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

3.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 8
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes, January 30
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

4. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, February 15
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

5. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull/G3 Lecomte?
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

6. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixleland Band 14
Next Race: Robert Lewis Stakes on February 6th, 8.5 furlongs.
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs.
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

7. Swipe (Birdstone by Grindstone and Avalanche Lily by Grand Slam by Gone West by Mr. Prospector) 12
Next Race: 
2nd G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
2nd G1 Frontrunner Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
2nd Del Mar Futurity, 7 furlongs
2nd G2 Best Pal Stakes, 6.5 furlongs

8. Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

9. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

10. Sail Ahoy (Bernardini and Matlacha Pass by Seeking the Gold)
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes?
4th G2 Remsen Stakes
3rd G2 Nashua Stakes
4th G1 Champagne

11. Arabian Leopard (Scat Daddy by Johannesberg by Hennessy and Antoinette by Silver Hawk by Roberto by Hail To Reason)
Next Race:
3rd Eddie Logan Stakes, 8 furlongs on the turf.

He came running late after a bad start, but the race was around 2 turns so I think he definitely wants more distance. We shall see if they keep him on the turf.  It was a shame that he started poorly since a stakes win on turf they might have been more comfortable bringing him back on dirt, but with the bad start they just may want to keep him on turf again. Who knows. I think he is talented.

12. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: San Vicente Stakes, February 6, G1 Florida Derby, April 2
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

On The Bubble:
Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 14

Morse Code (Tapit and Serena's Cat by Storm Cat)

Hoffenheim (Midnight Lute by Real Quiet and Circumstance by Vindication)
Next Race:

ToewsOnIce (Archarcharch and Wild Forest Cat by D'Wildcat by Forest Wildcat) 4
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, G2 Rebel Stakes?

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)
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Next Race:
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

#9
Well, here is a revised list.

1. Greenpointcrusader (Bernardini and Avaknowsthecode by Cryptoclearance by Fappiano by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull Stakes, January 30
7th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Champagne Stakes, 8 furlongs BSF 94

2. Mohaymen (Tapit and Justwhistledixie by Dixie Union by Dixieland Band by Northern Dancer) 10
Next Race: G2 Holy Bull, January 30
G2 Remsen Stakes, 9 furlongs BSF 94
G2 Nashua Stakes, 8 furlongs

3.Sunny Ridge (Holy Bull and Lignum Vitae by Songandaprayer by Unbridled Song) 8
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes, January 30
2nd G3 Delta Downs Jackpot
2nd G1 Champagne Stakes
7th G3 Sanford Stakes, 7 furlongs

4. Exaggerator (Curlin and Dawn Raid by Vindication by Seattle Slew) 16
Next Race: G2 San Vicente, February 15
G3 Delta Downs Jackpot, 8.5 furlongs BSF 92
4th G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile, 8.5 furlongs
4th G1 Breeders Futurity, 8.5 furlongs
2nd G2 Saratoga Special, 6.5 furlongs

5. Brody's Cause(Giant's Causeway and Sweet Breanna by Saham by Mr. Prospector) 14
Next Race: G2 Tampa Bay Derby/G1 Bluegrass Stakes
3rd Breeders Cup Juvenile
G1 Breeders Futurity BSF 88

6. Mor Spirit (Eskendereya by Giant's Causeway and I'm A Dixie Girl by Dixie Union by Dixleland Band 14
Next Race: Robert Lewis Stakes on February 6th, 8.5 furlongs.
G1 Los Alamitos Futurity, 8.5 furlongs.
2nd G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs.

7. Annual Report (Harlan's Holiday by Harlan by Mr. Storm Cat and Pension by Seeking the Gold by Mr. Prospector)
Next Race: ?
5th G2 Kentucky Jockey Club, 8.5 furlongs
G2 Belmont Futurity, 6 furlongs

8. Airoforce (Colonel John by Tiznow and Chocolate Pop by Cuvee by Carson City by Mr. Prospector) 10
Next Race: Rebel Stakes?
G2 Kentucky Jockey Club BSF 87
2nd G1 Juvenile Turf, 8 furlongs
G3 Bourbon Stakes, 8.5 furlongs

9. Nyquist (Uncle Mo by Indian Charlie by In Excess and Seeking Gabrielle by Forestry by Storm Cat) 30
Next Races: San Vicente Stakes, February 6, G1 Florida Derby, April 2
G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile BSF 89
G1 Frontrunner Stakes BSF 79
Del Mar Futurity
G2 Best Pal Stakes

10. Discreetness (Discreet Cat by Forestry by Storm Cat and Fondness by Elusive Quality by Gone West)
Next Race: G3 Southwest Stakes, 8.5 furlongs
Smarty Jones Stakes, 8 furlongs
Springboard Mile

11. Flexibility (Bluegrass Cat and Santa Vindi by Vindication) 14
Next Race: G3 Withers Stakes/G3 Gotham Stakes
G3 Jerome Handicap, 8 furlongs

12. Drefong (Gio Ponti by Tale of the Cat and Eltimaas by Ghostzapper)
Next Race: G2 San Vincente, 7 furlongs

Shagaf (Bernardini and Muhaawara by Unbridled Song)
Next Race: Allowance at Gulfstream Park

On The Bubble:
Collected (Ciry Zip by Carson City and Helena by Johannesberg) 10
Next Race: ?
G3 Sham Stakes, 8 furlongs

Morse Code (Tapit and Serena's Cat by Storm Cat)

Gehrig (Ghostzapper by Awesome Again and Captivating Cathy by Forest Wildcat by Storm Cat)

"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

Thanks = list is nicely done - we shall see how the dust settles this weekend!
May they run with the wind

Man o Taz

#11
Thanks.

Yes we will.

Two races with a lot on the line and some nice fields.

I hope Mohaymen and Greenpoint finish 1-2 close together to keep them at the top and that Sunny Ridge outduels Flexibility, Vorticity and Donegal Moon for a decisive wins after his two runner up stakes finishes.
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Man o Taz

 :rhrse:

Yes, Sunny Ridge!
"And Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath upon it, and created the horse.... Thou shall fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse" - old Bedouin saying.

Dusty

Mohayman is beautiful and was impressive
May they run with the wind

Dusty

And a nice win by Smokey Image - undefeated - I am adding him
May they run with the wind

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