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Title: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 03, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
Well, we have one...maybe...
http://www.dailynews.com/events/20141101/bayern-wins-breeders-cup-classic-amid-controversy

Bayern's owner, Kaleem Shah, said he plans to continue racing his Offlee Wild colt, raising the possibility that fans can look forward to the winner squaring off again against California Chrome and Shared Belief in 2015.

"He'll race as a 4-year-old, 5-year-old, and 6-year-old, if he can," Shah said. "I'm a horse racing fan first, and I know the fans hate it when good horses get retired. So I'm going to make sure as long as he's sound and Bob tells me he wants to run, he'll keep running."


Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 03, 2014, 01:18:13 PM
And we have recently heard from California Chrome's camp that he will be returning in 2015...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/03/us-horse-racing-chrome-idUSKBN0IN20U20141103

Coburn, who co-owns the horse with Perry Martin, said he would choose the races California Chrome will run in 2015 very carefully.

"The future is good because we're going to race him as a 4-year-old," Coburn told Reuters in a telephone interview. "We're going to be very choosy in the races we'll put this horse in.

"There's no sense in taking a chance of hurting him."

"We're thinking racing as a 4-year-old will be really, really good for this horse," he said. "His showing as a 4-year-old will enhance what he did in his 3-year-old campaign."

California Chrome, ridden by Victor Espinoza, broke from 13th post in the 14-horse Classic on Saturday and fought gamely in the stretch to finish a half-length behind the two front-runners, Bayern and Toast of New York.

"The stretch run was fantastic," said Coburn. "He only got beat by half a length. He was coming on like a freight train. If the stretch run had been 10 yards longer, he'd have probably won by three lengths."

"He came out of the race just absolutely fantastic," said Coburn. "We saw him yesterday (Sunday). He looked like he could run the race all over again. He was really, really high in spirits."

"He proved on Saturday that he's a race horse," he said. That's what he does. We can't wait for the future. We're going forward."

Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 03, 2014, 01:21:01 PM
We also know that Wicked Strong was done for this year as a result of his injury in the G1 Jockey Club Gold Cup, but his trainer hinted he would be back...

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/wicked-strong-through-racing-for-the-year/
"We've decided to give him the rest of the year off and not go to California," Jerkens said. "We were thinking that way even after the Travers. I think it's unfair to have the Breeders' Cup out there every year. The Californians always have the best shot. How are you going to beat them going across the country from cool to hot weather? We want to have a nice horse for next year."
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 03, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
We also now the following horses have returned to training:

Constitution
Worked October 26th at Belmont Park in 47.67.
I wonder if he may try the Cigar Mile with those sharp works.

Danza
Worked Saturday 4 furlongs at Palm Meadows in 50:27.

Honor Code
Worked Saturday 4 furlongs at Belmont Park in 49.39.

Hoppertunity raced October 29th.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 04, 2014, 10:34:12 AM
I almost forgot the gelding Shared Belief will likely be there too and for years after that hopefully.

I was shocked his half sister in foal to his sire, Candy Ride, did not bring more $$$ in the sale yesterday.

Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 05, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
According to his Facebook Page Commissioner is on the comeback trail...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Commissioner-Racehorse/466608036781264
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 05, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
Quote from: Man o Taz on November 03, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
Honor Code
Worked Saturday 4 furlongs at Belmont Park in 49.39.

Keep hoping to see Top Billing on a work tab.

I just heard Honor Code might be pointing for the Cigar Mile after all.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 06, 2014, 09:14:57 AM
According to Tonalist's HRN page, he has been sent to Payson Park to rest up for 2015 where the Dubai World Cup may be on his agenda.

http://www.horseracingnation.com/horse/Tonalist
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on November 06, 2014, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Man o Taz on November 05, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
Keep hoping to see Top Billing on a work tab.

I just heard Honor Code might be pointing for the Cigar Mile after all.

I read something about Top Billing recently that made me think he was on the way back, but just hadn't actually worked yet. I think it was in the recent DRF article about Honor Code.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Senator L on November 07, 2014, 05:34:15 PM
I hope all the horses stay healthy seems like it will
be one heck of a good year :chickendance:
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on November 10, 2014, 06:42:58 AM
Could be one of the strongest older horse fields in a long time.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 09, 2014, 08:18:34 AM
Shared Belief in 2015?

One of Shared Belief's victories - his most impressive - occurred on polytrack at Del Mar. Del Mar has switched to dirt. Del Mar was the last of the major California tracks to switch to dirt.

Mr. Hollendorfer indicated post-Awesome Again that he had a preference for synthetic.

How will Shared Belief deal with racing on dirt all the time?

Are there any tracks in the US which will feature a G1 race on synthetic? I do not think so.

It will be very interesting to see whether Shared Belief's turn of foot on dirt can equal his blazing speed on synthetic.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 09, 2014, 09:24:01 AM
Nope, no more open G1s on the all weather in this country. Note sure Woodbine have (or ever had) a G1 on their Poly either.
Shared Belief will just have to deal with dirt... they could always try him on turf I suppose.


Toast of New York is another that I am excited to see again. Will he race again?
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 09, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
Apparently Pletcher is pointing both Danza and Constitution to the Donn Handicap. I can't access the full article since my DRF subscription ran out last month though...
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 09, 2014, 10:31:28 AM
Well, I guess that makes sense since they are two of his three top three year old charges.

I've never seen Danza run in person, but I did see Constitution in an allowance race at Gulfstream and he was a standout.

I wonder if Commissioner goes back into training what they might do with him. He and Honor Code are the most prominent last crop A.P. Indy sons still racing so I am anxious to see how they do.

Perhaps he'd send Commissioner to NY for racing which would be a shame if Honor Code decides to begin in the Hal's Hope and contest the Donn Handicap as well. It would have been nice to see the two sons compete.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 11, 2014, 05:03:03 AM
Untapable and Tapiture are set to return for 2015 after shipping to Fair Grounds for the winter (per a DRF article that I can't access).
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 11, 2014, 05:55:57 AM
Excellent news.

I wonder if they'll try Untapable against the men again.

And it will be nice to see if Tapiture can stretch out a bit or, if not, challenge Palace Malice at the 7 furlong, mile distance.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 16, 2014, 08:28:25 AM
Smmmmokin'! (for a horse that usually is not gangbusters in the morning)

Hoppertunity
Your Comment:

Date: December 15, 2014
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 47:00 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/107
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 16, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
I'll say - is he looking to race next week? Because that's what it looks like. Wow.

I wonder if Bayern and Hoppertunity will ever work together...might break a track record for works...

Have you heard where Mr. Baffert might be pointing him in the Spring?


Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 16, 2014, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: Man o Taz on December 16, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
Have you heard where Mr. Baffert might be pointing him in the Spring?

I haven't heard, but I wouldn't be surprised if the San Antonio and/or Big Cap is on the agenda. The San Antonio got a purse hike I think- 500K. I don't recall the purse being that high before, but maybe it was. Hopper has proven to be a decent shipper too, so he could wind up back east (FL) I suppose?
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Raven on December 16, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
Off topic..Why there are never breezing works in the west coast?
I can never figure that out!
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Senator L on December 16, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Raven on December 16, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
Off topic..Why there are never breezing works in the west coast?
I can never figure that out!

Just the way the clockers do it out there. A horse has to be going awesome
to be considered a breeze
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Raven on December 17, 2014, 07:06:35 AM
Quote from: Senator L on December 16, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
Just the way the clockers do it out there. A horse has to be going awesome
to be considered a breeze
Thanks Senator!
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 18, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on December 16, 2014, 11:23:13 AM
I haven't heard, but I wouldn't be surprised if the San Antonio and/or Big Cap is on the agenda. The San Antonio got a purse hike I think- 500K. I don't recall the purse being that high before, but maybe it was. Hopper has proven to be a decent shipper too, so he could wind up back east (FL) I suppose?

I would think Bayern or Hopp would be in the Donn.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on December 19, 2014, 04:45:07 AM
Social Inclusion is back in training at Palm Meadows (per a DRF plus article).
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on December 19, 2014, 08:29:42 AM
Wow. I bet they'll  target the Hal's Hope with him. He could be a monster at Gulfstream this Winter if he stays sound. I thought I read he got a new trainer.

I think he would have been ideal for the Haskell - and should have prepped in the Pegasus for it to get his first stakes win.

Maybe he'll try the Iselin or the Salvator Mile there. I still think he'd look the track.
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on January 30, 2015, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on November 06, 2014, 10:28:41 AM
I read something about Top Billing recently that made me think he was on the way back, but just hadn't actually worked yet. I think it was in the recent DRF article about Honor Code.

It seems that both Honor Code and Top Billing are preparing for their 2015 debuts at Gulfstream Park:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/89894/honor-code-top-billing-near-4yo-debuts

Honor Code in the Gulfstream Handicap and Top Billing in an allowance race. 
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on March 11, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
Quote from: peeptoad on December 11, 2014, 05:03:03 AM
Untapable and Tapiture are set to return for 2015 after shipping to Fair Grounds for the winter (per a DRF article that I can't access).

Untapable goes in the Azeri and Tapiture goes in the Razorback, both at OP.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/people/velazquez-to-ride-untapable-in-azeri-stakes/ (http://www.paulickreport.com/news/people/velazquez-to-ride-untapable-in-azeri-stakes/)
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on March 11, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
Great to hear.

I wonder how the older female division looks this year.

Will Beholder return to form?

She's been working up a storm and it will be interesting to see where she is pointed. I would imagine the Santa Margarita stakes, but Paulick Report has the Madison Stakes in April at Keeneland.

Close Hatches and Princess of Sylmar are retired.

And the three year old fillies other than Untapable and Don't Tell Sophia were so so.

So those two will have a claim on it. They could meet in the Apple Blossom.

Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: peeptoad on March 12, 2015, 09:28:45 AM
Azeri S. (Grade II)
Oaklawn Park, March 14, 2015, Race 7
1 1/16mDirt $300,000 Fillies & Mares 4 yo's & up

PP / Horse / Jockey / Wgt / Trainer
1 Untapable (KY) 4/F J R Velazquez 122 S M Asmussen
2 Diva's Diamond (IL) 6/M M C Berry 117 K Broberg
3 Sugar Shock (KY) 4/F C Hill 117 D L Anderson
4 Gold Medal Dancer (KY) 5/M L S Quinonez 117 D K Von Hemel
5 Mufajaah (KY) 4/F E Esquivel 122 D C Peitz
6 Flashy American (KY) 6/M C Landeros 117 K G McPeek

Razorback H. (gr. III)
Oaklawn Park , Saturday, March 14, 2015, Race 8
1 1/16mDirt $250,0004 yo's & up4:57 PM (local)

PP   Horse   Jockey   Weight   Trainer
1   Tapiture (KY)   Ricardo Santana, Jr.   119   Steven M. Asmussen
2   Golden Ticket (KY)   Chris Landeros   115   Kenneth G. McPeek
3   Midnight Hawk (KY)   Victor Espinoza   115   Bob Baffert
4   I Got It All (IL)   Channing Hill   113   Thomas H. Swearingen
5   Race Day (KY)   John R. Velazquez   115   Todd A. Pletcher
6   Carve (KY)   Jesus Lopez Castanon   118   Brad H. Cox
7   Ride On Curlin (KY)   Jon Kenton Court   117   William G. Gowan
Title: Re: 2014 Three Year Olds Returning In 2015
Post by: Man o Taz on March 16, 2015, 10:58:15 AM
Two special races.

What a slugfest between Midnight Hawk and Race Day and Untapable cam up a little bit short.