Uniformity

Quote from: Catalina on November 15, 2013, 01:37:01 PM

Quote from: Dave in TJ Mex on November 15, 2013, 01:04:01 PM

Quote from: Catalina on November 15, 2013, 12:42:53 PM

Quote from: curtis on November 15, 2013, 11:58:20 AM

Quote from: Catalina on November 15, 2013, 10:29:56 AM

Quote from: Ballerina on November 14, 2013, 08:22:28 AM
Unless they think Wise Dan's shot at HOY is in jeopardy, I can't see them entering him in this race.  But, I'm not wishing against it.

Seems like running Wise Dan in the Clark shouldn't be needed for cementing HOY.  That said, running him would be a silly chance to take.

Wise Dan's a gelding and by running and winning the Clark he'd be doing what we should all hope for thoroughbred geldings to do--earn money.  Yes he'll probably win the major award by staying in the barn but it would be nice to break away from the dare I eat a peach mentality.

T'is to be hoped your attitude would be different if it were your horse.  But, I can see it won't - the money to be collected for  a win would far outweigh any other consideration for you.  With "friends" like you, horseracing doesn't need any enemies.

Catalina, I don't understand your comment.

If the connections believe (1) the horse is fit, (2) trains well and/or well run well on dirt, (3) will be highly competitive against the others entered, and (4) can get the distance, what is the problem with running him, and what other considerations militate against running him?

The Clark can lose Wise Dan the coveted HOY repeat.  It cannot win him HOY.  Seems like another HOY title for a horse that people can visit at KY Horse Park would go far further to improve on the legend, than  the $ he's expected to win from the Clark.  If he wins the Clark. 

It would also go far further towards generating new fans if the industry didn't insist on rubbing it in that stallions have residual post racing value, but that it's perfectly fine to run geldings until they drop.

You know Wise Dan did win the Clark before so what I proposed is not outlandish.  My comment about his being a gelding was not meant to imply he, or any other gelding, be run into the ground but that he is at an age when horses begin to slip a little.  If he's deemed to be in top form I think Wise Dan should run because who knows how long that form will last?  If he wins he should be hailed as one of the greats as opposed to a horse like, say, Mineshaft.  Has Cigar being at the KY Horse Park generated scores of new fans?

As for horse racing not needing me, I beg to differ.  I own, care for, live with and feed two OTTB's--both geldings--who raced 102 times combined and--except for collecting one bet on each--they earned not one dime for me.  I claimed one to retire him because, ironically, in my opinion he was being run until he was going to drop.  The other was 23 when I got him, two years ago, and being offered up for a kill buyers price.  I devote a lot of time creating artwork that pays homage to many old favorite horses I recall from my youth in the 1970's.  Many of those are obscure geldings of which I believe should not be eternally forgotten.  Far more of this work is donated than sold.  My gallery wishes I would spend more time creating work from some of my other genre since those are more marketable.  I think the equine based work is important though so I continue to do them.  If I am an enemy to horse racing, in your informed opinion, what is my motive?

Quote from: jjacks1 on November 06, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
Sorry I have not been posting as much but I am working on the racing silks database on the other side of TBR fans. I'm on the letter J now. This, of course, is not a complete list through J - somehow I doubt this project will EVER be complete! 

I have a ton of old programs dating back to the 1930's--all from the west coast--that I use for research for my artwork.  I can look up silks if you give me specific information.

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The clues are making my head hurt.  Weekend Surprise?

Quote from: Catalina on November 15, 2013, 10:29:56 AM

Quote from: Ballerina on November 14, 2013, 08:22:28 AM
Unless they think Wise Dan's shot at HOY is in jeopardy, I can't see them entering him in this race.  But, I'm not wishing against it.

Seems like running Wise Dan in the Clark shouldn't be needed for cementing HOY.  That said, running him would be a silly chance to take.

Wise Dan's a gelding and by running and winning the Clark he'd be doing what we should all hope for thoroughbred geldings to do--earn money.  Yes he'll probably win the major award by staying in the barn but it would be nice to break away from the dare I eat a peach mentality.

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